MX412 is the new AD version of Androstadienone .

https://secure.androticsdirect.com/produ...370&cat=16

There is a thread in the "Store" forum about it.

Anybody here gonna try it?

Nope. They can do their own research.

(07-21-2011 1:30 AM)dbot Wrote:  Nope. They can do their own research.

I've tried it and it is nowhere close to A-1. For those who want to know my impression was that it was P130 and IS. Which is not a bad combo however, it is not a good replacement for Androstadienone. The formula needs tweaking

(08-20-2011 11:39 AM)Paradox Wrote:  I've tried it and it is nowhere close to A-1. For those who want to know my impression was that it was P130 and IS. Which is not a bad combo however, it is not a good replacement for Androstadienone. The formula needs tweaking

Do you actually think that it is a combination of P130 and IS (implying TAA?) What makes you think that? I used it and had good, calming effects on a female friend who tends to be a bit bitchy, but haven't had enough experience with androstadienone to really compare the two.

o.k.

this MX had some great reviews on AD

first i did not think that i should try it ...

the reviews were way too good ...

but now as there´s some reporting about mixed results ..

i think i give it a shot

Pago

(08-21-2011 2:25 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  o.k.

this MX had some great reviews on AD

first i did not think that i should try it ...

the reviews were way too good ...

but now as there´s some reporting about mixed results ..

i think i give it a shot

Pago

I've been trying it, doesn't seem too promising to me IME.

I'd really like to get my hands on the UF2 though, lemme know how your testing works on that.

(07-20-2011 8:32 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  MX412 is the new AD version of Androstadienone .

Wait, after Jasmine announced that they were never going to sell Androstadienone again, because women were using it to intentionally depress men and it was evil?

Naw, they wouldn't do that! Remember their only goal is to make the world a better place. cough, cough, cough.

Guess they found another supplier and have a chance to make money on it again. Just her style!

But wait, aren't MX's supposed to be mixes of putatives or pheromones, and isn't there a patent on using Androstadienone in ANY formulation, and guess what? We now have someone with the rights to exersize the patent here as a forum member.

This could maybe prove interesting!

(08-21-2011 10:43 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Wait, after Jasmine announced that they were never going to sell Androstadienone again, because women were using it to intentionally depress men and it was evil?

Naw, they wouldn't do that! Remember their only goal is to make the world a better place. cough, cough, cough.

Guess they found another supplier and have a chance to make money on it again. Just her style!

But wait, aren't MX's supposed to be mixes of putatives or pheromones, and isn't there a patent on using Androstadienone in ANY formulation, and guess what? We now have someone with the rights to exersize the patent here as a forum member.

This could maybe prove interesting!

Just to clarify.

It's not Androstadienone Mark, it meant to be a replacement for it in terms of effects but without it being the actual single molecule. From what I've read and based on my own usage, it doesn't seem close to it IMO.

(08-21-2011 10:43 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  But wait, aren't MX's supposed to be mixes of putatives or pheromones, and isn't there a patent on using Androstadienone in ANY formulation, and guess what? We now have someone with the rights to exersize the patent here as a forum member.

JS actually talked about the androstadienone issue briefly in a recent webcast, stating that it wasn't just because of members using it to attempt to depress men, but also because of the patent by Erox. He also gave a shout-out to Erox and referred to them as a fellow company he admires for their innovations in the field and that he hopes their future projects result in some really interesting new things.

I know you don't exactly like Androtics, Mark, but do a fact check before you start making accusations or rant. You're partly in charge of this forum, and a lot of people here, myself included, look up to you. The purpose of this forum is to sweep away all the rumors, get down to the science behind all these wonderful molecules, and provide accurate data. It becomes more difficult to do that if one of the top dogs unintentionally spreads a bit of misinformation out of anger and misinterpretation.

Mark did not state any accusation. All facts