(03-02-2016 4:21 PM)andromun Wrote:  I'm super fucking irritated reading this. I also got a 50ml AM (post H) and now I'm wondering if this is some watered down shit.

Me too. If their testing determines that it's so, I'll be inquiring about a new bottle.

First post here, but I'd like to thank you all for your efforts in bringing up this issue and finding a way to reconcile it. I purchased the 50ml bottle of AM, LIIK v.1, and Glace in January. First time purchasing mones based on the awesome reviews on here and other forums. I've tested here and there, but nothing spectacular from any of the AD products I expected. I'm assuming the lack of results stem from this problem. I know I have 90 days to get a full refund or exchange, so advice needed... Should I wait on all of the testing being done and decide to exchange it? Or should I just get a full refund and give up on the AD products? The old results seemed very promising and I was excited to share my experiences but to no avail.

(03-03-2016 1:42 AM)WCHeartBreaker Wrote:  First post here, but I'd like to thank you all for your efforts in bringing up this issue and finding a way to reconcile it. I purchased the 50ml bottle of AM, LIIK v.1, and Glace in January. First time purchasing mones based on the awesome reviews on here and other forums. I've tested here and there, but nothing spectacular from any of the AD products I expected. I'm assuming the lack of results stem from this problem. I know I have 90 days to get a full refund or exchange, so advice needed... Should I wait on all of the testing being done and decide to exchange it? Or should I just get a full refund and give up on the AD products? The old results seemed very promising and I was excited to share my experiences but to no avail.

I would wait till the testing is completed. If the formulas return to (or exceed) their prior potency, I would exchange.

(03-03-2016 10:03 AM)TongRen Wrote:  I would wait till the testing is completed. If the formulas return to (or exceed) their prior potency, I would exchange.

Too late for me to exchange it. Still ... since they've found the problem, and I have AM-H and LIIK-H v-1 and the 50mil LIIK v1 that are ALL bad products, there should be no time frame for an exchange. Still ... they should look at their order history, and send out new bottles to all those who made those bad purchases.

(03-03-2016 4:37 PM)MMM Wrote:  Too late for me to exchange it. Still ... since they've found the problem, and I have AM-H and LIIK-H v-1 and the 50mil LIIK v1 that are ALL bad products, there should be no time frame for an exchange. Still ... they should look at their order history, and send out new bottles to all those who made those bad purchases.

Agree with you 100% on that, but you have to email Amara and tell her about it, as it is the only way to get things rolling. I'm sure if you let her know you're a long time member of pherotruth and that you are one of the current users who got stuck with this bad batch, I'm sure she'll make things right for you.

It is because of me and a few other reporting members that started writing her about the current issue, that eventually got things moving in a positive direction. At first she claimed that there was nothing wrong with the formula. I kept saying that members that had tried the previous version were not getting the same results with this newer batch. I hadn't tried the older version of LIIK, so I could not compare results, but I did notice that v1 was very social/friendly with the ladies, but no sexual/attraction from them, as per what I had read from other's results. I returned it and got a refund, and was thinking of trying AM or LIIK v2, but that's when I found this post: http://pherotruth.org/Thread-L2K-v1-alco...#pid175477 where I discovered that I was not the only one that had gotten poor results from it. So I am very thankful for everyone (Horizon, D_Darko, D'man, dsouza) who reported their findings with this current batch, and also for emailing Amara/Chris about it, for without any action, we wouldn't not gotten to the bottom of this issue.

(03-03-2016 10:57 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  Agree with you 100% on that, but you have to email Amara and tell her about it, as it is the only way to get things rolling. I'm sure if you let her know you're a long time member of pherotruth and that you are one of the current users who got stuck with this bad batch, I'm sure she'll make things right for you.

It is because of me and a few other reporting members that started writing her about the current issue, that eventually got things moving in a positive direction. At first she claimed that there was nothing wrong with the formula. I kept saying that members that had tried the previous version were not getting the same results with this newer batch. I hadn't tried the older version of LIIK, so I could not compare results, but I did notice that v1 was very social/friendly with the ladies, but no sexual/attraction from them, as per what I had read from other's results. I returned it and got a refund, and was thinking of trying AM or LIIK v2, but that's when I found this post: http://pherotruth.org/Thread-L2K-v1-alco...#pid175477 where I discovered that I was not the only one that had gotten poor results from it. So I am very thankful for everyone (Horizon, D_Darko, D'man, dsouza) who reported their findings with this current batch, and also for emailing Amara/Chris about it, for without any action, we wouldn't not gotten to the bottom of this issue.

See..........now this is the same old AD!!!

While all these members are saying how great it is that they are resolving this issue, they actually tried to deny it when it was first brought to their attention.

This is truly a testament to Chris's original mixes...............even with all of this incompetence, the company still survives.

Just got an email from Amara, seems like I can't exchange the product for a new 36ml bottle but they will send me a vial of Androstenone. Oh well, I guess I'm going to have to settle for this. Frankly still irritated...even more for the newer members who read all the older posts only to get a watered down product based on what WE posted.

I know this wasn't done on purpose from Chris but dang dude it's just a shitty feeling to spend money on a product to later find out it's lacking.

(03-03-2016 4:37 PM)MMM Wrote:  Too late for me to exchange it. Still ... since they've found the problem, and I have AM-H and LIIK-H v-1 and the 50mil LIIK v1 that are ALL bad products, there should be no time frame for an exchange. Still ... they should look at their order history, and send out new bottles to all those who made those bad purchases.

Judging by their reply to my mail I'd say not gonna happen. Actually the mail in general wasn't all too helpful.

I've been leaving the house this morning with a big blob of Nude Alpha Gel on. Around 10 hours later I remembered having a little 'to-go' bottle of AM in my pockets and decided to give it a go. What can I say - the left-over androstenone from NAG combined with AM moved my AM experience a good bit towards what I was expecting to get from AM alone after reading tons of great reviews. Nice and very obvious hits, veeerryyy much an attention grabber with the girls, getting them to go all shy-smiley and hair-twirly. ;)

So I won't give up on my bottle of AM. Guess I'll save a part of it for what I did today - NAG for the day, adding AM on top later. And another part I'll start mixing a bit more androstenone in that I got from AD still. Anyone here who's done that already? Having a ballpark starting figure of how much androstenone to add would be awesome. Otherwise I'll just go slow and add androstenone until I hit the sweet spot.

(03-04-2016 1:16 PM)andromun Wrote:  Just got an email from Amara, seems like I can't exchange the product for a new 36ml bottle but they will send me a vial of Androstenone. Oh well, I guess I'm going to have to settle for this. Frankly still irritated...even more for the newer members who read all the older posts only to get a watered down product based on what WE posted.

I know this wasn't done on purpose from Chris but dang dude it's just a shitty feeling to spend money on a product to later find out it's lacking.

For some reason, I expected that.

As far as I'm concerned, I GOT CHEATED OUT OF MY MONEY. I didn't pay for a product that doesn't work, and required me to add anything to it. Had I known that, I wouldn't have purchased it. Nor was I notified that I'd have to add anything before I spent my funds. And I should NOT have to ask for any -none! It should come in the mail on its own WITH AN APOLOGY! They should be ashamed! Seriously!!!

That is just wrong. I've heard things like this about Chris over the years from others. I never tried any of the Alpha Dream products so I can't attest to how good they used to be but it sounds like a scam to change things without letting the customer know.