The more I read about this situation, the worse it gets.

I'm stuck with what I have, and I guess when I'm done being pissed, I'll try adding NNPA. With that being said, lets see if I can go through life without EVER ordering from AD again. Such a shame, but ...

With all the BAD news I thought I'd add a glimmer of LIGHT here....

I am done testing AM testers...

I only did 4 tests or so and the results between the substandard Am and the high none one were so obvious I will say the REAL thing decimated the other tester.

In fact for the first time in 3 months of not closing I went out and closed 2 new women today.. May not seem like much but consider this... I only made 2 approaches.

I will be submitting my reviews of the two testers to Chris at AD this weekend.

My testing is complete.


Knock'em Dead...

Wow! Looks like (AD) Alpha Dream is the new (AD) Androtics Direct.

All this sounds very familiar to what I've heard about Androtics and the changing of their formula.

In the end my friends it's all about the moolah. It's the made in China mentaily of making it cheap and selling it at a huge profit, thinking of today and not about tomorrow instead of creating a high quality product that people can keep coming back to for years to come.

It truly is a shame. I hope they can get it together and maybe give the new version at a discount to all of us who bought bottles of the H and 50ml product.

(03-04-2016 8:15 PM)Don Juan DeMarco Wrote:  Wow! Looks like (AD) Alpha Dream is the new (AD) Androtics Direct.

That's going too far.They did free exchange and shipping for H version products. Androtic never(well most of the time) admitted any changes or tried to resolve problems,and pulled out working products(prolly sold them to someone).

(03-04-2016 8:23 PM)jb20 Wrote:  That's going too far.They did free exchange and shipping for H version products. Androtic never(well most of the time) admitted any changes or tried to resolve problems,and pulled out working products(prolly sold them to someone).

Yes, that's true they did free exchange but wasn't the exchange the low none 50ml bottle? If so then either way we got screwed.

Maybe someone who did the exchange can clarify.

(03-04-2016 8:15 PM)Don Juan DeMarco Wrote:  Wow! Looks like (AD) Alpha Dream is the new (AD) Androtics Direct.

All this sounds very familiar to what I've heard about Androtics and the changing of their formula.

In the end my friends it's all about the moolah. It's the made in China mentaily of making it cheap and selling it at a huge profit, thinking of today and not about tomorrow instead of creating a high quality product that people can keep coming back to for years to come.

It truly is a shame. I hope they can get it together and maybe give the new version at a discount to all of us who bought bottles of the H and 50ml product.

I would concur that this is going a bit too hard on them. From what I've seen, Alpha Dream is nothing like Androtics.

They have not changed their formula. The current issue is due to substandard inputs from a new supplier. If you wanted to fault them for anything, it would be that they did not properly QC the - none. They are taking steps to correct the situation.

I would ask you this: has Androtics fixed A314 yet?

Let's see how this all pans out before tearing them down.

(03-05-2016 4:35 AM)TongRen Wrote:  I would concur that this is going a bit too hard on them. From what I've seen, Alpha Dream is nothing like Androtics.

They have not changed their formula. The current issue is due to substandard inputs from a new supplier. If you wanted to fault them for anything, it would be that they did not properly QC the - none. They are taking steps to correct the situation.

I would ask you this: has Androtics fixed A314 yet?

Let's see how this all pans out before tearing them down.

Alright maybe I was too hard in saying they are the new Androtics.

But the way I see it is they are well on their way to follow in their footsteps. Unless this new imrpoved formula being tested hits the shelves and stays there for a substancial amount of time without reformulations to weaken its potency or add a substance that waters it down

They both began changing what works and that's what caused issues. I will give credit to Alpha Dreams for trying to fix it and test a better formula but we don't know how long that change will stay. Because now we don't know if they can be trusted with keeping consistency on their product.

THIS JUST IN FROM ALPHA DREAM.......


Hi DSOUZA,

You guessed correctly! That's good news.

Everyone got a tester kit A and B, but A and B maybe different for each tester.
[edit: some confidential info removed here....]

Here is how we will do this. We will give customers within the 3 month return policy 2 options. We will send off vials of -none they can add to the formula or we can exchange. That way customers can keep the 50ml instead of us sending back a 36mL bottle. Also, it would save us shipping cost can we are spending quit a bit to clean up this mess.

For those that wish to exchange we will honor the 3 month return policy of course, for those past the 3 months that received 50mL bottles we will send them a vial of -none they can add to the remaining formula. Those are the options. Please post that for us.

I have to say I feel quite relieved that the test is showing to be so promising. Still awaiting more results. Thank you DSOUZA!

Sincerely,

Amara Stefani
VP Creative Director

I got AM and LiiK so I was starting to think my cash might of gone down the drain. To be fair id be happy with the -none to add into the bottle. I just want this stuff to work as good as the reviews claim. Luckily I've only used a few sprays so hopefully they will give some guidelines of how much -none too add. I did start messing about with NNPA + Liik but when your a noob its a bit tricky - combined with the fact your not savvy with how Liik should behave in the first place.

(03-05-2016 5:51 AM)dsouza Wrote:  THIS JUST IN FROM ALPHA DREAM.......


Hi DSOUZA,

You guessed correctly! That's good news.

Everyone got a tester kit A and B, but A and B maybe different for each tester.
[edit: some confidential info removed here....]

Here is how we will do this. We will give customers within the 3 month return policy 2 options. We will send off vials of -none they can add to the formula or we can exchange. That way customers can keep the 50ml instead of us sending back a 36mL bottle. Also, it would save us shipping cost can we are spending quit a bit to clean up this mess.

For those that wish to exchange we will honor the 3 month return policy of course, for those past the 3 months that received 50mL bottles we will send them a vial of -none they can add to the remaining formula. Those are the options. Please post that for us.

I have to say I feel quite relieved that the test is showing to be so promising. Still awaiting more results. Thank you DSOUZA!

Sincerely,

Amara Stefani
VP Creative Director

This really sucks! I've got 2 bottles of 50ml L2Kv1 that were purchased in August...way past the 3 month window. My guess is there is a lot of bad product out there that won't be fixed because of "the 3 month window". Fixed for a few customers and other customers are left holding an empty bag! This isn't right!