I joined AD a longggg time ago and tried ammo and a free sample of instant openness. Ammo worked wonders for me and I could consisting see difference from times I would wear it to times I didn't. Never really used the Instant Openness that much and when I did it was just mostly spur of the moment and didn't pay attention to the effects. Shortly after that I enlisted and didn't get a chance to used them for a longgg time.

Now I want to start back up again an my ammo reserve is fresh out. And I'm seeing a lot of hate(plus severely jacked prices on AD now) so I need some new ideas. I always wanted to try a314 so I wound up getting it anyway but there are soo many other things I want to try as well. P86 was one of them if there is a substitute for it out there somewhere??

Also any ideas would be appreciated. Mostly for relaxed environment, not clubs or anything, just want to have good conversation and an enjoyable time with girls. Not anything intense like what Turn Up The Heat would have been or deep touting conversation like With Instant Honesty. Just want to help the conversation be more relaxed and chattier to have a good time.

(08-05-2012 4:26 AM)Lonewolffff91 Wrote:  I joined AD a longggg time ago and tried ammo and a free sample of instant openness. Ammo worked wonders for me and I could consisting see difference from times I would wear it to times I didn't. Never really used the Instant Openness that much and when I did it was just mostly spur of the moment and didn't pay attention to the effects. Shortly after that I enlisted and didn't get a chance to used them for a longgg time.

Now I want to start back up again an my ammo reserve is fresh out. And I'm seeing a lot of hate(plus severely jacked prices on AD now) so I need some new ideas. I always wanted to try a314 so I wound up getting it anyway but there are soo many other things I want to try as well. P86 was one of them if there is a substitute for it out there somewhere??

Also any ideas would be appreciated. Mostly for relaxed environment, not clubs or anything, just want to have good conversation and an enjoyable time with girls. Not anything intense like what Turn Up The Heat would have been or deep touting conversation like With Instant Honesty. Just want to help the conversation be more relaxed and chattier to have a good time.

Hey man, welcome to the forum! There are a lot of different products that would do the trick for you with that but I think I would suggest you check out the all new L2K from Alpha Dreams. It's supposed to be a sexual/social hybrid and the reviews of it has been awesome. I am ordering some myself tomorrow, they have a 20 percent discount right now. I would also throw in some Androstadienone, a single molecule that is also available from Alpha Dreams. It works like a charm on the females.

Hi, Wolf.
Welcome to the forum.
Theres plenty of companies to try your pheromones from. Steve's pheromones seems to be a big hit these days. And as an old AD member, i guess you allready know who he is. Others company such as Alpha Dream And Liquid Alchemy are good as well. Love Potion also have good covers to offer.

Hey Lonewolffff91, welcome to PheroTruth!

If you were a pherotalk member you probably recognize a few names here, and may evev be surprised that three's a whole pheroworld outside of Androtics, and better too!

There's lots of great products out there and with a little digging and a bit of advice from members here I'm sure you'll find just the tools you're looking for.

welcome to the forum

Welcome to the forum! D_Darko gives some good advice. Though if L2K is a new, more social version of alpha maschio it may already have some androstadienone in it. It's not on the site yet. You need to access it through the link, here.

http://alpha-dream.3dcartstores.com/prod...itemid=282


I'd skip the AD putatives entirely. Alpha dream is currently running a sale and offers a great selection of single molecules. You actually get to know what you're using, too. You can get a great deal if you're willing to buy an alcohol concentrate and then dilute it down to the correct concentration.

Be forwarned that they're shipping may be a little slow right now due to the high bandwidth and other things. Most stuff gets out fast but a few people have complained.

welcome to the forum

(08-06-2012 1:19 AM)wiserd Wrote:  Welcome to the forum! D_Darko gives some good advice. Though if L2K is a new, more social version of alpha maschio it may already have some androstadienone in it. It's not on the site yet. You need to access it through the link, here.

http://alpha-dream.3dcartstores.com/prod...itemid=282


I'd skip the AD putatives entirely. Alpha dream is currently running a sale and offers a great selection of single molecules. You actually get to know what you're using, too. You can get a great deal if you're willing to buy an alcohol concentrate and then dilute it down to the correct concentration.

Be forwarned that they're shipping may be a little slow right now due to the high bandwidth and other things. Most stuff gets out fast but a few people have complained.

I'll probably try out that l2k as well as AM. From my understanding wolf, AM and a314 all have similar goals in what they aim to achieve correct? As far as single molecules...is there anyway to get it already diluted? I trust someone else to get that right much more than I do myself. And what is the molecule with a beautifying effect like p86?

(08-06-2012 8:41 AM)Lonewolffff91 Wrote:  I'll probably try out that l2k as well as AM. From my understanding wolf, AM and a314 all have similar goals in what they aim to achieve correct? As far as single molecules...is there anyway to get it already diluted? I trust someone else to get that right much more than I do myself. And what is the molecule with a beautifying effect like p86?

a314 is more like Corporativo, I think. Those are the two corporate, status enhancing mixes. Alpha Maschio is more analogous to Ammo, I believe. Someone correct me if they think otherwise. I haven't had a chance to try out those various AD mixes yet.

(08-06-2012 8:41 AM)Lonewolffff91 Wrote:  I'll probably try out that l2k as well as AM. From my understanding wolf, AM and a314 all have similar goals in what they aim to achieve correct? As far as single molecules...is there anyway to get it already diluted? I trust someone else to get that right much more than I do myself. And what is the molecule with a beautifying effect like p86?

Yes, if you're talking about Androstadienone, you can order it ready to use in a bulbdropper from Alpha Dreams. Just choose if you want 10 mcg or 20 mcg per drop.