Hi all, this is my first post so wish me luck.
I have been using pheromones for around 3 years now and am on to mixing my own mixes now. I have been using exclusively Lacroy products thus far so am quite excited to get my own mixes out there from single pheromones.
Here is just a guide that i thought Id like to share for the new users or for those looking at venturing into their own mixes.

ANDROSTENONE
This is your typical alpha / dominance pheromone
Gives a youthful and physical alpha traits
This is the "Raw reproduction" inducing pheromone, in other words it is sexual pheromone, the type that gets you laid / one night stands etc

It is easy to overdose with this pheromone. OD will result in negative (counter) effects such as wearer aggressiveness, aggression from other males, women will be intimidated by the wearer, women will avoid any contact with you (look away from you, avoid eye contact), it also will leave a aweful Urine smell on you.

ANDROSTERONE
This is also a Alpha pheromone but without that aggressive edge
This usually boosts the effect of the other pheromones in the mix
Gives a mature, intellectual type of vibe off
Give a protector, safe, reliable and peaceful type of alpha male effect

Androsterone comes in alpha and beta varients : A-Androsterone produces the above results. B-Androsterone is the same but swags abit to produce a charsmatic type influence however B-Androsterone in larger quantities seems to also lower status just abit

ANDROSTENOL

This is a social pheromone that produces a youthful type aura
Its refered to as a "communication" pheromone that incourages bonding
regardless of gender.
It also seems to induce friendliness and comfort on a deeper level
Some have referred to this as the "pillow talk pheromone"
Great to improve current relationships to a deeper level
Increases a womans desire to talk on a deeper level and also makes stronger bonds develop
Portrays a positive image which hightens levels of attractiveness.

A-Nol - Attractive, chatty, making conversation flow easier, openness mainly in regards to light conversation.
B-Nol - same as A-Nol but seems to worker at a deeper level, more intimate communication, deeper conversations, secret been spilt

ANDROSTADIENONE

Rightly labeled the "Love pheromone"
Most useful with a rapport allready been built
Women tend to show to be more relaxed, stressfree around the wearer.
Women judge you as more attractive, increases intimacy (emotional type) and comfort
When mixes with other pheromones, it appears to make the woman seem more comfortable with the effect or attraction caused by the other pheromones in the mix, even with NONE.
I have seen the typical "knight in shining armour syndrome"
This is great to get a woman to fall in love with you over time, its seems to leave a memory association of the effects mentioned above in memory.
This is also a great pheromone to enable you to help change other opinion of you.

Danger : it seems to develop a build up effect in with it turns to NONE, and thus makes the wearer seem more aggressive. (This has caught me off guard when in nightclub getting sweaty while dancing, however when you getting action, it can work for you, just watch you current NONE content.)

OXYTOCIN

Seems to develop trust and rapport.
Makes women alot more chatty
Seems t o only last a short while

Hope this helped out, please feel free to comment if I have got any thing wrong here

Excellent post for new users and even veterans.

Question - do all molecules break down into NONE or just Androstadienone ?

(10-06-2013 8:39 AM)Liquid_Mind Wrote:  Excellent post for new users and even veterans.

Question - do all molecules break down into NONE or just Androstadienone ?

I find that happens only with the ANDROSTADIENONE.

Like don't wear it if you going jogging with your target or if you know you going to get sweaty. NEVER use it at the gym....LOL (I learnt the hard way)
I also find that at night clubs when you dancing and have got all hot and sweaty it turns , you have 30 - 45 minutes once you get hot enough to feel that you need to "cool" down before its going to turn against you.

I usually sometimes add it to New Pheromone Additive and when it turns with New Pheromone Additive in the mix...run - YOU ARE GOING TO BE IN A FIGHT NO MATTER HOW POLITE YOU ARE!

Remember this is my personal experience, and also remember that in general South African are naturally aggressive especially with alcohol in the mix.

Its awesome as long as you dont get your body temp up too much. I am not sure where you are in the world, in SA we have hot / sweaty weather especially in summer. If you in a cooler climate I am sure you'll be able to control it much easier.

I thought Androstadienone turned into a -nol when mixed with bacteria over enough time?

(10-06-2013 9:59 AM)velinxs Wrote:  I thought Androstadienone turned into a -nol when mixed with bacteria over enough time?

Whenever I wear it and it turns on me, I get almost an over whelming NONE piss smell and suddenly a get the counter effects of NONE and the same sex aggression of an OD on NONE.

You got me interested as I LOOOOVVVEVEEE socials, esp. nol and Androstadienone!

What were you mixing it with? You have got me interested, if I can get it to work as NOL for me, you have made a new best friend. Maybe with your input we can nail this! If I could get it turned to NOL with the hitting power of Edge or New Pheromone Additive that would be absolutely tremendous!

I usually mix with New Pheromone Additive and I get that NONE OD effect.

OFFTRACK : If you have Edge try this mix. 1 or 2 spray(s) down the forearm, let dry for about 3 minutes then take Old Spice deo (Original in the can) and use that as the cover scent - I always get massive hits with that combo. And yip Old Spice. Sorry to jump the gun but am keen to see if anyone else gets hits with this combo.
(Try one spray on each arm first in case you OD)

You dont get depression self effects while wearin A-1??

(10-06-2013 10:17 AM)preck Wrote:  You dont get depression self effects while wearin A-1??

No I don't seem to suffer at all. Then again I don't wear everyday. My main pheromone that I wear the most is Edge Trust and sometimes Edge.

I have written to LaCroy to ask them if they cant sell the individual pheromones separately to me, not sure if they will entertain it but worth a shot.

I must have been misinformed, doctor, i had always thought it broke down to -nol for some reason. I've never really experienced this problem however, Androstadienone seems to last so long that it's irrelevant (i live in a cold climate) I generally wear behind the ear (where there's not a whole lot of sweat.) and apply lotion prior to the app site. I use 10% DPG to 90% ethanol based Androstadienone fyi.

However all in all, I really stopped wearing Androstadienone in general, it's a great way to build intimacy with a girl but if you wear it around a girl before you seal the deal you can easily become friend zoned. I've noticed this happen way to many times. Creates surrogate girlfriend type relationship aka emotional tampon. The only time i use it i wear it in conjunction with New Pheromone Additive - so that the wearer maintains an undeniable sexual threat level.

Also, Androstadienone depression is very real, the higher base level of cortisol you have, the more decreased your testosterone will be after exposure. The study i am referring to can be found here. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ado...0062499#s4

Keep in mind too, this study was a one time exposure type thing, imagine how much some of us have been exposed! There could be serious long term libido effects!

Only good in small doses, or after you've built a sexual rapport and trying to make her your steady.

Just my two cents.

(10-13-2013 8:10 AM)velinxs Wrote:  I must have been misinformed, doctor, i had always thought it broke down to -nol for some reason. I've never really experienced this problem however, Androstadienone seems to last so long that it's irrelevant (i live in a cold climate) I generally wear behind the ear (where there's not a whole lot of sweat.) and apply lotion prior to the app site. I use 10% DPG to 90% ethanol based Androstadienone fyi.

However all in all, I really stopped wearing Androstadienone in general, it's a great way to build intimacy with a girl but if you wear it around a girl before you seal the deal you can easily become friend zoned. I've noticed this happen way to many times. Creates surrogate girlfriend type relationship aka emotional tampon. The only time i use it i wear it in conjunction with New Pheromone Additive - so that the wearer maintains an undeniable sexual threat level.

Also, Androstadienone depression is very real, the higher base level of cortisol you have, the more decreased your testosterone will be after exposure. The study i am referring to can be found here. http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Ado...0062499#s4

Keep in mind too, this study was a one time exposure type thing, imagine how much some of us have been exposed! There could be serious long term libido effects!

Only good in small doses, or after you've built a sexual rapport and trying to make her your steady.

Just my two cents.

Thanks, you are not the first person who has said this. I may well be wrong and there may be something else going on with the New Pheromone Additive then. I will research it more then and correct it if it is wrong, thanks for bringing it to my attention.

The friend-zone - every guys wet dream...NOT. thanks for the heads up on that as well as I was going to try that mix. In my mixes I always put at least 10% NONE or New Pheromone Additive into it for that very reason and for for some reason I was going to try something different, so awesome that you warned me.


CORRECTION : Seems that we are both right, it converts to A - NOL, and then to -NONE. Mayeb the conversion is very rapid with me or something or my bacteria effects it diffrently. See the following post _ Blades response.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Androstadienone -breakdown