So i'm sure alot of you have heard of the NoFap community. Which basically advocates against Porn. I used to be a avid watcher of Porn and Masturbated to it. Even when i had regular sexual partner. It just never crossed my mind that it was a bad thing. It seemed that porn for us 90's kids who grew up watching American Pie etc. just didn't see porn as that bad. Ofcourse we were also the first generation of kids to have easy access to porn.

What i want to talk about today though isn't porn its about not ejaculating. I read some intresting articles on the NoFap website that talked about the benefits of not ejaculating. One of them was that it somehow increased pheromone production due to testosterone increase from not ejaculating.

I didn't stop there i decided to test this theory myself. Of course that would mean that i cannot have sex or masturbate. So i am two weeks into it right now. Since my last ejaculation.

First three days was like hell, wake up middle of night with hardons and wet dreams. Fourth day started noticing voice becoming a little deeper. Eye-contact with other people especially women outstanding. I didn't wear any phero's for the first week. Not much reactions from others but self reactions were great. I felt more alpha like wearing a dose of androstenone without wearing it.

On the second week thats when i started noticing girls checking me out more almost like hits from Phero products. Also was feeling great myself except for the morning temptations that drive me crazy for about the first hour upon awakening.
Been having to call off some dates with girls because i know it would lead to sex. All in the science of testing. On the 2nd week is also when i started to add Phero products on as the first week i did not wear phero as at all.

I started used Wolf on the 8th day.

self-effects: very calming. Seemed to give me a bit more control over my horniness. Felt more in control but also very masculine at the same time.
I usually have to add a drop of AT for almost the same effects but not ejaculating for 8days seem to have changed my Phero composition.

Effects on others: The clients i met all seemed very happy to see me, all seemed very comfortable around but also very respectful. Women seem to eyeball and hover around me. I chit-chatted with a couple of girl's from the local coffee shop in the same line as me. All couldn't stop talking to me and they were the ones that tried to keep the conversation going.

9th Day did not wear Phero's

10th Day: I wore 2 spray of Core + 1 drop of NA. Self-effects felt even more Alpha then when wearing Wolf. I went to yoga studio for a light meditative class. Everyone i sort of know there couldn't stop talking to me everyone seemed intrested in what was going on in my life. Yoga teacher shit-tested me .


12th Day Currently on: Today i decided to test my Auraental sample solo. I met up two girls for lunch both chinese. We know eachother for years like high school friends. Just decided to come out and talk eat lunch. So i wore 3 drops of Auraental with a spray of Aventus. These two girls haven't seen me in years. I have changed alot since then lost alot of weight etc. The two girls couldn't stop giggling and flirting with me. I know i have a chance with either of them if i wanted to.

What's funny is after lunch we went to go grab coffee, and Auraental hit one of the white baristas there pretty hard or it seemed. I only went there like 3 times in my life, and the barista was asking me how i've been and how she missed me. LOL!!
Maybe she thought i was someone else??

It seems that not ejaculating has somewhat cleared up alot of brain fog. I seem to think faster, react faster and always in a very calm manner. I also noticed that my bodyodor got stronger since i stopped ejaculating. After workouts i notice it the most. I certainly think that not ejaculating increases pheromone production in a good way but its not the only perk of not ejaculating. It also makes you think and articulate alot better. Add some mone products on top of that and BAM you got a miracle in the making!

Damn man, thats a tough experiment to run. Thanks for the effort!

I've read that the T only raises for the first four days and then baselines. Was this you experience or did it seem other things kept increasing the effects you noticed? If its just test one could simple get that from the DR., well those of us that are aging.

In the new agey world it is believed that you have a life force that is entangled with the release of an ejaculation. This is what Tantra is based off of. Keeping your ejaculations within keeps the energy within. One can then put that energy to other uses. I've never tried it but I'm thinking of giving it a try. I'm breaking up with my SO and moving to a new small town and my place is 35 miles into the desert. Seems like a good time to experiment with that. The effort to get laid and live that far out just isn't worth it to me right now. Hopefully my internet is crap or I'm sure I'll fail. Lets be honest, PORN! Hahaha.

I have tried some of the no fap and no porn things while I did have a sexual partner. I did notice some really good things about it. The most notable being that I didn't need that Rolodex in my head. I think its a very bad thing for your sex life to have moments where you see 400 women's vaginas in a 15 minute period and then go have sex with one woman. There is a boring factor that goes away when your minds isn't like "what else you got?"

I'm also a member of a forum called PEGYM. The 'no fap' and 'no porn' stuff is widely discussed. Porn addiction is a real thing. Problem is people don't realize they have it or how it's actually affecting them.

I decided to go 'no porn' but not 'no fap', but limited it to twice a week. After about a month and a half my libido started going through the roof and my downstairs department was acting like when I was a teenager again. So I can testify that there is definately something to it. Fallen off the wagon recently, and it shows!

Whether or not it affects your natural pheromones? No idea. However if you do try it your attitude does tend to change. You do tend to behave more 'alpha', you have more energy and you will open with women more frequently.

That's my experiences anyway.

(08-27-2015 8:39 AM)SuperJoy Wrote:  Damn man, thats a tough experiment to run. Thanks for the effort!

I've read that the T only raises for the first four days and then baselines. Was this you experience or did it seem other things kept increasing the effects you noticed? If its just test one could simple get that from the DR., well those of us that are aging.

In the new agey world it is believed that you have a life force that is entangled with the release of an ejaculation. This is what Tantra is based off of. Keeping your ejaculations within keeps the energy within. One can then put that energy to other uses. I've never tried it but I'm thinking of giving it a try. I'm breaking up with my SO and moving to a new small town and my place is 35 miles into the desert. Seems like a good time to experiment with that. The effort to get laid and live that far out just isn't worth it to me right now. Hopefully my internet is crap or I'm sure I'll fail. Lets be honest, PORN! Hahaha.

I have tried some of the no fap and no porn things while I did have a sexual partner. I did notice some really good things about it. The most notable being that I didn't need that Rolodex in my head. I think its a very bad thing for your sex life to have moments where you see 400 women's vaginas in a 15 minute period and then go have sex with one woman. There is a boring factor that goes away when your minds isn't like "what else you got?"

Hey SuperJoy,
I honestly don't know how high my T level's were when i did this test since i have no way to test it. All i can say is that i noticed increased aggression but that increased aggression came with increase in clarity and focus. So even though i became more aggressive but in a good way. Less second guessing more just going for it type of attitude. This increased agression seems to be with me as long as i don't release; masturbate. My longest streak has been 1month previously, but i fell back now i'm going on my second run. So far by friday it would of been 2 weeks. I thinking about having sex on the weekend though. Definitely gonna stop porn which in itself brings alot of mental benefits. Not ejaculating though seems to be the invisible chick-magnet though. So no porn to me = increased mental clarity. No ejaculation = Increased Aggression + Magnetism.

(08-27-2015 11:13 AM)Toad in the Hole Wrote:  I'm also a member of a forum called PEGYM. The 'no fap' and 'no porn' stuff is widely discussed. Porn addiction is a real thing. Problem is people don't realize they have it or how it's actually affecting them.

I decided to go 'no porn' but not 'no fap', but limited it to twice a week. After about a month and a half my libido started going through the roof and my downstairs department was acting like when I was a teenager again. So I can testify that there is definately something to it. Fallen off the wagon recently, and it shows!

Whether or not it affects your natural pheromones? No idea. However if you do try it your attitude does tend to change. You do tend to behave more 'alpha', you have more energy and you will open with women more frequently.

That's my experiences anyway.

Hey Toad,
Yeah porn addiction is a real thing. I've honestly experienced withdrawal symptoms from quitting porn. Insomnia, porn popping up in my mind during the weirdest times, brain felt like it was burning the first couple of days. Brain coming up with excuses to watch porn. In some ways these withdrawal symptoms has actually helped me realize how much porn has affected me.

Same thing with ejaculation, modern doctors say its okay to clean the pipe once a day. I followed this rule for the better part of my life never questioning it. Now i noticed that actually withholding for a week or two can actually bring many unexpected positive results. For my life in general not just relationship wise, but also personal growth wise. When i don't ejaculate turns me into a real go-getter never feel lazy always goal oriented.

(08-27-2015 11:13 AM)Toad in the Hole Wrote:  I'm also a member of a forum called PEGYM. The 'no fap' and 'no porn' stuff is widely discussed. Porn addiction is a real thing. Problem is people don't realize they have it or how it's actually affecting them.

I decided to go 'no porn' but not 'no fap', but limited it to twice a week. After about a month and a half my libido started going through the roof and my downstairs department was acting like when I was a teenager again. So I can testify that there is definately something to it. Fallen off the wagon recently, and it shows!

Whether or not it affects your natural pheromones? No idea. However if you do try it your attitude does tend to change. You do tend to behave more 'alpha', you have more energy and you will open with women more frequently.

That's my experiences anyway.

Hey Toad, what kind of gains have you gotten? I've gained half an inch in length, and I'm working on a new technique using warm-ups and then cooling down with ice water while stretching. It seems to work really well. I get temp gains of a quarter inch at least, and my flaccid hang is outrageous even though the last time I did it was 2 days ago and even then just 1 set.

(08-27-2015 4:26 PM)seekingnirvana Wrote:  Hey Toad,
Yeah porn addiction is a real thing. I've honestly experienced withdrawal symptoms from quitting porn. Insomnia, porn popping up in my mind during the weirdest times, brain felt like it was burning the first couple of days. Brain coming up with excuses to watch porn. In some ways these withdrawal symptoms has actually helped me realize how much porn has affected me.

Same thing with ejaculation, modern doctors say its okay to clean the pipe once a day. I followed this rule for the better part of my life never questioning it. Now i noticed that actually withholding for a week or two can actually bring many unexpected positive results. For my life in general not just relationship wise, but also personal growth wise. When i don't ejaculate turns me into a real go-getter never feel lazy always goal oriented.

Yeah, it can be really hard to give up porn. I've relapsed so many times. Studying at home I'm always at the computer. But it's definitely worth it. However I don't think it's necessary to go completely 'no fap', once or twice a week should be fine, depends on the individual.

(08-27-2015 5:10 PM)NP17 Wrote:  Hey Toad, what kind of gains have you gotten? I've gained half an inch in length, and I'm working on a new technique using warm-ups and then cooling down with ice water while stretching. It seems to work really well. I get temp gains of a quarter inch at least, and my flaccid hang is outrageous even though the last time I did it was 2 days ago and even then just 1 set.

Just over an inch in length and almost half an inch in circumference. Took about one year (with a four month break in the middle) doing the JP90 routine.

Haven't heard of cooling off with ice water, what's the theory behind that?

(08-28-2015 1:11 AM)Toad in the Hole Wrote:  Just over an inch in length and almost half an inch in circumference. Took about one year (with a four month break in the middle) doing the JP90 routine.

Haven't heard of cooling off with ice water, what's the theory behind that?

https://www.thundersplace.org/penis-enla...ed-it.html

(08-27-2015 8:39 AM)SuperJoy Wrote:  ...In the new agey world it is believed that you have a life force that is entangled with the release of an ejaculation. This is what Tantra is based off of...

Someone just recommended me this book: Succsex: Success Through Sex Transmutation Sounds like the same idea.

It's available on Amazon or by Googling...