(04-29-2017 7:06 PM)avi Wrote:  5" from 30ml roller bottle are equal to one drop.
12" from 10ml roller bottle are equal to 1 drop.

Don't afraid from OD. I'm over 40 and find out that I'm tolerate more none without overdosing.

2-3 drops NA will be normal, even with 1-2 spr. L2K. I'm supposing that new version of l2k are none-weak. But Androstadienone in l2k would be a great addition to NA if You have not Androstadienone.

I had once a crazy combo with 2dr NA , 1.5(or 2) spr LIIK v.1( an old good one) and 1sp A314, plus some Androstadienone and I recieved a good amount of IOIs, lingering to me , target glued to me, very dilated pupils.
And I was imprinted in her brain for monts ( may be a little fallout ).

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I appreciate your reply and the advice on the NA+L2K combo question. I did a lot of searching on this site but couldn't find any instances of people touting this combo. It made sense to me but I thought hmmm there might be a reason people weren't using it. Nice to know now it has been used with some positive results.

I've have used NA solo for about a month now on my target. I'm guessing she's become accustomed to my phero sig by now. Looking for opinions on whether I should continue with the NA solo or combo with L2K soon? I know the answer from most here will be to just test it out and report back with the results, but my concern is that I don't want a confusing sig that could scare her off or confuse her.

As for self effects the NA gives me an initial rush but as the day wears on I get a bit balmy, mushy and lethargic. I also have to fight some very strong reverse imprinting. I usually give myself a break from the mones on the weekend, when the physical effects subside but I still feel the reverse imprinting effects.

Thanks for listening. Peace!

If You don't want confusing your sig, try slightly, step by step convert the sig.
Maybe 1dr NA, 1sp L2K. ( if You have empty 2ml sample bottle , one sp from it maybe will equal to half sp of regular AD bottle and You'll increase L2K half by half your signature gradually to 2(3)dr NA + 2sp LIIK ).

Yes there are reverse imprinting from NA sometimes.

There is famous combo in this thread NA. From the veteran - as33156 :
NA 3-6 dr
Androstadienone 30-50mcg
Glace 3 to 6 sprays
HERE

Also as33156 wrote:
Yeah NA is Beast! Combine it with Androstadienone /Chohesion and it will get you tons of kino. Add Glace© to that then you have my falling in love combo. Beware it creates super stockers.

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So after reading about NA for a while now, I tried it out of the sample I got with AV and Wolf. used a cover scent and put on about 1 drop each on chest and wrists. the lunch date went well. it lasted around 2 hours in total. Did not see any kino, ut I did notice getting super exhausted when I came back. I had to take an hour of nap to get energy back. I was thinking of buying a full bottle of NA as my next purchase but this tireness makes me doubt if it the right one for me.

PS:
I didnt realize I could mix it with Cohesion for improved effects!!!

Yes. Mix it with Cohesion or other products containing Androstadienone , or even pure Androstadienone .
You definitely will see the improved effect of NA.

May be Your tiredness is from comboing with Wolf and AV.
Also some people needs time to adjust oneself to some phero blends/mixes.

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(05-11-2017 8:11 AM)avi Wrote:  Yes. Mix it with Cohesion or other products containing Androstadienone , or even pure Androstadienone .
You definitely will see the improved effect of NA.

May be Your tiredness is from combining with Wolf and AV.
Also some people needs time to adjust oneself to some phero blends/mixes.

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Will try Cohesion+ NA.
and No I have never used Wolf with AV and I dont use anything on a regular basis. But I do remember getting very tired after using A314 a while ago ( 2 years maybe).
Thanks for the suggestions :-)

Okay I'm back. I finally rec'd my Androstadienone from PXS on Monday. I've been using a combo of NA + Androstadienone for 5 days now on my target. I've got a 10 ml roller of NA and 15mcg/drop Androstadienone . I've been using the equivalent of 2 drops NA total on my forearms and jawline with 3 drops total of Androstadienone on wrists, and behind ears. I did use one drop of Androstadienone in the crook of my throat on the first day, but the self effects had me drowsy and irritable. I chose wrists and behind ears to lessen these neg effects and it seems to work better for me this way. I'm also using 2 sprays of Aventus as a cover. Reverse imprinting is less acute with this combo than when I was using NA solo. I'm also not as mushy with the combo. As for the target, we spend most of the day together off and on at work. Average exposure time is usually for 20-30 minutes 4 or 5 times a day. When I used NA solo she was much quieter and pensive but with the Androstadienone added she has been extremely giddy. She's usually a very quiet and serious woman, but since I added Androstadienone to the NA she has become much more vocal and expressive with me individually and in group settings. She's exhibiting an ear to ear grin and her eyes seem to be glistening and brighter. It's definitely hit her in a positive way. There is however one concern I have. My target and I have known each other for over 10 years. There has been palpable sexual tension in the past. We have given each other back rubs and hugged, and pecks on the cheek and harmless kino in the past and we've straightened each other's collar, or hair etc...After fixing her hair which was caught under her collar on Tuesday she began to tug and twirl her hair vigorously as the conversation wore on. That was Tuesday. Since then she is obviously avoiding any physical contact with me. She used to come into my office at the end of the work day and give me a big hug and a peck on the cheek good bye. Now she has been avoiding this ritual and says goodbye from a short distance. She's also jumped a bit on a couple of other occasions when I've touched her innocently as though my touch has startled her. Anyone ever had this result from this combo? I hope this doesn't continue.....I miss my hugs! Any advice? Thanks in advance.

(05-12-2017 4:17 PM)AnthonyBoa Wrote:  We have given each other back rubs and hugged, and pecks on the cheek and harmless kino in the past and we've straightened each other's collar, or hair etc..

the next thing you 2 should do is teach each other how to make paragraphs!! ... lol

she's confused. you've known each other for 10 years and everything has always been innocent but now you're giving off a different vibe with the NA. she probably doesn't understand what this new vibe is and maybe she doesn't like it .... or maybe she does like it but because she doesn't understand what's going on, she's backing off for now.

(05-12-2017 4:17 PM)AnthonyBoa Wrote:  Okay I'm back. I finally rec'd my Androstadienone from PXS on Monday. I've been using a combo of NA + Androstadienone for 5 days now on my target. I've got a 10 ml roller of NA and 15mcg/drop Androstadienone . I've been using the equivalent of 2 drops NA total on my forearms and jawline with 3 drops total of Androstadienone on wrists, and behind ears. I did use one drop of Androstadienone in the crook of my throat on the first day, but the self effects had me drowsy and irritable. I chose wrists and behind ears to lessen these neg effects and it seems to work better for me this way. I'm also using 2 sprays of Aventus as a cover. Reverse imprinting is less acute with this combo than when I was using NA solo. I'm also not as mushy with the combo. As for the target, we spend most of the day together off and on at work. Average exposure time is usually for 20-30 minutes 4 or 5 times a day. When I used NA solo she was much quieter and pensive but with the Androstadienone added she has been extremely giddy. She's usually a very quiet and serious woman, but since I added Androstadienone to the NA she has become much more vocal and expressive with me individually and in group settings. She's exhibiting an ear to ear grin and her eyes seem to be glistening and brighter. It's definitely hit her in a positive way. There is however one concern I have. My target and I have known each other for over 10 years. There has been palpable sexual tension in the past. We have given each other back rubs and hugged, and pecks on the cheek and harmless kino in the past and we've straightened each other's collar, or hair etc...After fixing her hair which was caught under her collar on Tuesday she began to tug and twirl her hair vigorously as the conversation wore on. That was Tuesday. Since then she is obviously avoiding any physical contact with me. She used to come into my office at the end of the work day and give me a big hug and a peck on the cheek good bye. Now she has been avoiding this ritual and says goodbye from a short distance. She's also jumped a bit on a couple of other occasions when I've touched her innocently as though my touch has startled her. Anyone ever had this result from this combo? I hope this doesn't continue.....I miss my hugs! Any advice? Thanks in advance.

She probably doesn't know why she's suddenly falling in love for you. These are incredibly new feelings that she hasn't had. Ask her "Is there anything you want to tell me? You've been acting weird" while wearing the combo. She will think it is very obvious to you why, and she thinks you know why she is acting weird.

(05-12-2017 4:39 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  the next thing you 2 should do is teach each other how to make paragraphs!! ... lol

she's confused. you've known each other for 10 years and everything has always been innocent but now you're giving off a different vibe with the NA. she probably doesn't understand what this new vibe is and maybe she doesn't like it .... or maybe she does like it but because she doesn't understand what's going on, she's backing off for now.

Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the run on paragraph. I've always had a thing for her, but since I'm her direct supervisor I've kept my romantic distance. As far as your take on the situation I'm hoping it's the latter. We've had an incredibly close relationship for years and I'm tired of the FZ.

(05-12-2017 7:06 PM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  She probably doesn't know why she's suddenly falling in love for you. These are incredibly new feelings that she hasn't had. Ask her "Is there anything you want to tell me? You've been acting weird" while wearing the combo. She will think it is very obvious to you why, and she thinks you know why she is acting weird.

Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try and hope that the combo helps her open up more. Peace!

(05-13-2017 5:17 AM)AnthonyBoa Wrote:  Thanks for the reply. Sorry about the run on paragraph. I've always had a thing for her, but since I'm her direct supervisor I've kept my romantic distance. As far as your take on the situation I'm hoping it's the latter. We've had an incredibly close relationship for years and I'm tired of the FZ.

(05-12-2017 7:06 PM)BigDickBandit420 Wrote:  She probably doesn't know why she's suddenly falling in love for you. These are incredibly new feelings that she hasn't had. Ask her "Is there anything you want to tell me? You've been acting weird" while wearing the combo. She will think it is very obvious to you why, and she thinks you know why she is acting weird.

Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try and hope that the combo helps her open up more. Peace!

The combo, 95% sure, isn't going to open her up. You need to ask her why she's been acting differently. Make her uncomfortable, even for a few minutes of this conversation, in the midst of all the comfort that NA + Androstadienone gives. It's too much comofort for a platonic female friend to process.