RE: P75 in stock...$1000 per 5mL...
09-08-2011 6:54 PM
[quote='Pagodeiro' pid='19380' dateline='1308188381']
Maybe they do not get really much of those molecules and a custom - synthesis takes longer as they want ...
If the price would be the reason they would not sell them anyway ...
Maybe they just want to try their forum member harder to become a reporting user ?
Maybe they are just trying to figure out how customers will react ..
I can´t say for sure
Pago
I wondered about the $999.99 for a bottle. They must have a reason.
My guesses were:
1- Reporting user status - quality reporting every day for 2 years. Good Grief, there must be at least 5 Reporting Users. Not many more if you get your status pulled for not reporting every day. And it needs to be quality, not the single line LOL replies.
If you go for that type of status, you must be pretty tight on the AD forum site, and with all your time on the AD site, you will probably not be posting as much on other forums (like pherotruth, or love-scent, etc...) and your time spent is $$$ and resources used to improve their forum as a product, which it is. AD's forum "IS A PRODUCT IN ITSELF". If you look at how many posts are on the AD forum you respect it as a resource, and pulling in "NEW REPORTING USERS" means that they drive up the value of their forum for existing and new customers.
Every "QUALITY POST" drives up the value of a forum.
If AD had no quality posts on its forum, it would be just the few paid AD employees responding to posts, and making it look like there isn't enough of an experienced user base. If they can get the user base to answer all the NOOB questions and give great input, the look like a stronger company, by word of mouth, but indirect word of mouth, because you are reading a post on a forum that may not be directly to you.
2- why the price? Nobody buys for $999.99 ever. It just sits there as a reward for posting lots, until they get enough back in stock to cover the mixes, the Pxx's and the Instant Commercial line.
And if someone did pay the $$$$ then I'm sure AD would take the money, why not, it's free money.
3- The research. I've thought about this one long and hard. Why does the research matter? Many chemicals have restrictions. Some of these restrictions are waived in areas of research. Also with areas of liability, you waive certain rights and claim certain responsibilities when acting in a research capacity. Both of these can work to AD and other companies advantage by claiming the "SHELTER OF RESEARCH". If they do research, and they surely do research of some kind, they must at least keep up the appearance of research to justify selling these molecules under the less restrictive rules that form the "SHELTER OF RESEARCH".
There is the blind testing aspect of the putatives, and all the other formulations, that is research oriented. I thoroughly understand the reasons for the blindness. But curiosity killed the cat(we hate being left in the dark by AD), and PHEROTRUTH lets cats out of the bag, blindly testing, then REVEALING the info afterwards.
4- Hidden reasons.
4a- We are talking about psycho-active molecules. It is reasonable that AD would pull some molecules that could become dangerous in certain doses, or in combinations, or that are found to have no other pheromone type effects beyond the placebo effect.
4b- Also undoing redundancy, to redundantly test a single molecule under 2 or more different names to reduce the bias of foreknowledge gleaned from the forum and allow fresh insights into a molecule, allowing reports to be unbiased by a molecules history by reintroducing it as a different Pxxx. Then later remove one of the duplicated Pxxx's.
4c- Money reasons, sometimes people have misunderstandings, and piss off other companies, and can't get another order processed until they pay all the money owed the other company. So they decide to never do business with them again, and not pay off the $100k owed. (This is merely speculative about AD, it has happened at all the companies I've worked for though, in larger and smaller amounts.)
4d- Executive decisions. Saying that Pxxa and Pxxb are so close in effects that it is financially unable to keep supplying both Pxxx's. (But only if it costs over $30/mg or $30,000/g. [1mg->5mcg/spray in a 30mL bottle.] This is absurd, as keeping $1000 of each molecule in powder form could not be considered an unbearable business expense.) I don't see the space on a shelf to hold a 1gram or 100gram bottle being a space taker either.
4e- They lost it. They either lost the chemicals identity, or never had it. Or they lost the know how to synthesize it, or the access to facilities to synthesize it. OR they lost "THE RIGHT" to synthesize it. If they are bound by IP Laws (Intelectual Property) or patents/trademarks to pay royalties when using a molecule or using a molecule in a certain way. That could create the burden of added expense. Or if they signed away their rights to certain mixes and formula trade secrets by selling them, or the right to use certain chemicals by signing agreements with suppliers for discounted prices of molecules or synthesis costs to not bypass them and use other suppliers. You can lose rights just by signing them away. Or someone else patenting something and then coming up to you and saying "HEY! You are infringing on my patent, cease and desist and/or pay me my royalties!"
ALL OF THIS IS SPECULATIVE, AND NONE OF THIS IS BASED ON REAL KNOWLEDGE OF ANDROTICS DIRECT OR ITS BUSINESS PARTNERS.
I use tons of AD stuff, I like most of it, love some of it, and wish I had REPORTING USER status. Don't think for a moment that I don't appreciate the work of AD, and Pherotruth, and each and every pheromone advancing tip I get from the companies and users out there. Even if hype and propaganda slip in sometimes, there may be some greater good we can glean from it.
I run on and on and on. Had a blow up today using Turn Up The Heat and TAC. Tried them after reading some posts. Sucked. Sometimes if the mood ain't right, the Mrs. just ain't gonna go for anything.
my 2 cents was spent a long time ago, so i'm out.
dexter
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