I think Erox ER303 is Pregna-5,20-dien-3-ol (same as Molecule D2) or one the other Pregnadienes.

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(05-26-2012 6:01 PM)Alpha Dream Wrote:  Compounds related to pregnadienols or pregnadienones. I do not believe that ER 303 is the best that can come from this line of compounds. I think there may be found the holy grail of pheromones in this line of compounds.

This article has mentions of THDOC, DHEA, DHEAS and allopregnanolone (3a,5a-tetrahydroprogesterone) which has synonym 3a-hydroxy-5a-pregnan-20-one, as PheroPhiend posted in wiki link.

So if Allopregnanolone is 3a-hydroxy-5a-pregnan-20-one, is it correct the epi/beta isomer would be 3b-hydroxy-5a-pregnan-20-one (epiallopregnanolone)?

Some good reading..or not.. ;)
http://www.google.com/patents/WO1999045931A1?cl=en
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10951125
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2936666/

(06-22-2013 10:33 AM)velinxs Wrote:  So why was it discontinued then if its still readily make-able?

I think it was Tisha or Jasmine who said it was expensive and sold at a loss.

All so confusing.. look forward to trying XiST.

(09-02-2013 8:30 AM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  I'd really like to know the source for such compounds ....

muricin aglycone .. is daaa shit ...

Pago

Pago,

I sent you a pm.

Later.

Pago, I assume you're referring to a certain product sold by HAX? ;)

3b-hydroxy-5a-pregnan-20-one / (3β,5α)-3-Hydroxypregnan-20-one seem to be identical. It would be better to look at the 3-d structure of the 3a, 5a and 3b, 5a and spin them on x, y and z. AURFZBICLPNKBZ-FZCSVUEKSA-N is a good identifier for the 3b, 5a

(08-30-2013 8:14 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Well now, that's not quite true because a couple of years ago I had the chance to test Dancing Joker's "FPPX" mix in alcohol and oil versions, and yeah it was pretty damn good stuff.

so dancing joker does exist, not just a myth.

(09-02-2013 1:01 PM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  AND .. i have allopregnanolone from Chris ... and that's not anywhere near to the effects of P96 .. the dosages you need do not fit as well ..

Pago

That means Allopregnanolone is not P96 and muricin aglycone is ?

So what are difference in effects of allopregnanolone vs P96?

Just revisited this thread... muricin aglycone? This is definitely something ill look into. Unfortunately last I heard erox wasnt shipping internationally but Ill try pick some up elsewhere...

Thanks for the tip Pago


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I'm trying to get some source for muricin aglycone. Please share if you find any.

Same here.

Cheers!

(09-17-2013 10:41 AM)pheronik Wrote:  I'm trying to get some source for muricin aglycone. Please share if you find any.

Same here.

Cheers!

Erox has it in their product.

Erox is nothing like P96 in my experience. With Erox I get nothing. With P96 I get hits through the glass at the drive thru teller.