Hello, anyone here can compare these products
between AV or NA with products
from HAX such as Holygrail, Element-X, Perocide?
I've recently used those three product from HAX
with some nice hits, though in my experiences
there are little bit intimidating vibe especially with
Perocide considering my environmen is college
students (18-25 yo). Is Perocide more heavy
attractant than AV?

Element X, Holygrail and Pherocide all contain cops, which give off a "just had sex" vibe. I've never worn any of those products because I don't wear cops. Just my personal opinion that it shuts the door to some women who are trying to avoid "player" types. Also those products contain oxytocin, which you may want to read up on in this thread.

I do love NA and find it to be not intimidating at all, especially with an Androstadienone product like Cohesion. It's subtle. Great for drawing in women from an emotional angle instead of the purely sexual angle. I know some people have gotten some good hits with it, but I definitely put NA up there with GOA as products for someone looking to get into a relationship, or already in one.

As far as AV, I haven't gotten around to using it yet, but I understand it CAN be intimidating but is a top notch alpha product if you use it right. I doubt it's what you're looking for if you're trying to be LESS intimidating. I would wait for someone to chime in that has more experience with AV.

You might also want to consider Wolf for your situation.

Cornfed: thank u so much, Ur explanation's quite clear for me to understand now.

I was so confuse about how every girl i got hit from though just so EASY to show their interest with my presence BUT-BUT-BUT then JUST in the short of times too when i want to recall to meet her for dating or escalating they would just become like changing their feeling of me even try to avoid me or act like the're never interested in me before.

There are
some of them even (idk) like act or tried to tell me that she has already in a relationship or try to let me know that she was with her boyfriend at that time even without i ask, or several similliar acts. It was happen in several times when i was wearing these type of stuff. Whereas though they did the first move to get to know me before i show my interest. Its type of reactions getting me awkward or little bit annoying sometimes when our first intention was just making an an acquainted or build some connection.

Indeed that stuff's just like made them hypnotized by my presence ONLY at that time of meeting. The effect seems NOT in a such deep level of attraction continue to rage and linger AT ALL, even for several times of exposure. ;-(

So what is your goal, here?

Just to make acquaintances? Check out some socials - x22 if you really like HAX, if you're coming over to LAL, try Hypnotica. Glace is popular, I just ordered some. Bliss XS as well.

For imprint. - making them think of you fondly when you're not around, maybe get crushy, NA + Androstadienone (or Cohesion), a lot of people are loving Voodoo, GOA from P Tres shows potential.

If you go with anything Androstenone/Androstanone heavy, Primitive, OD, Domination XS, etc.You should be aiming to go out and bring a girl straight home to bed. These are really not multiple exposure mones on their own.

Regarding by the longterm relationship i intended to so i want the imprint effect maybe i would go pick NA to be the good choice,

Have u ever used or heard about Certo from AD to be the NA fusion as equal substitusion as Cohesion or straight Androstadienone ?

as33156 created the "Falling in Love" combo, and it's a good one. Since you can't access his journal yet, it's referenced here. It's Glace + Androstadienone + NA. He later went on to call Cohesion "300% better than Androstadienone ."
I know nothing about Certo, sorry.

ok thanks dude, you open my mind about phero category

(05-22-2015 8:12 PM)Cornfed Wrote:  as33156 created the "Falling in Love" combo, and it's a good one. Since you can't access his journal yet, it's referenced here. It's Glace + Androstadienone + NA. He later went on to call Cohesion "300% better than Androstadienone ."
I know nothing about Certo, sorry.

Have you tried Bliss + Cohesion + NA? I wonder if Connections + Cohesion + NA would work, as well.

Don't own Glace, and likely never will. I have Cohesion and A-1. Might have to play with the above combinations.

Voodoo in place of a social seems to fit with Nude Alpha very well. VD/NA/A-1 is pretty awesome, will try with Cohesion in place of A-1 as well.

The product you're looking for is Wolf, not AV. Trust me on this.

(Yesterday 9:13 AM)RTBoss Wrote:  Have you tried Bliss + Cohesion + NA?

That's my primary combo right now, until my Glace gets in and I can test it. I really do love Bliss and wear a spray in my hair whenever I wear mones now. The sample I was sent is going fast. I just want to try another social before I fully commit, and I want to see how the HEDIONE in Glace works in combo with my other mones. But Bliss definitely makes me and everyone around upbeat and happy.