(07-08-2016 12:22 PM)dexter Wrote:  There is clinical research on how oxytocin administered in an intra-nasal delivery helps with eye contact. Granted the study was not for ADHD but for ASD (Autism Spectrum Disorder). The results are helpful as it is actually painful in a way for some with ASD to look at peoples eyes or make eye contact, yet somehow, Oxytocin modulates that symptom and makes eye contact "possible".

I don't know the results with ADHD+Oxytocin. I have a big bottle of Oxytocin from TruePheromones but I think it got old (probably from 2013). There is a very different smell coming from it now. I wonder if it changed into another molecule with age because the different smell. It may just be the DPG as a solvent, but I haven't heard of DPG degrading.


here is some of the text about OT (oxytocin) and eye contact. It has lots more in the Oxytocin thread in Single Molecules started by kmacc45.
http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Oxytocin--4986?page=2
post by dexter 8-12-2013 5:08pm

Quote:In humans, intranasal or intravenous application of OT was reported to improve a broad variety of complex social behaviours (for reviews see Heinrichs et al., 2009, MacDonald & MacDonald, 2010, Meyer-Lindenberg, 2008).
Specifically, intranasal OT increased trust in healthy men (Kosfeld et al., 2005) and even prevented betrayal-triggered decrease in trust (Baumgartner et al., 2008). In this context, OT increased ratings for trustworthiness and attractiveness of unfamiliar faces (Theodoridou et al., 2009). Moreover, OT"“treated subjects were significantly more generous than placebo-treated men during a generosity game (Zak et al., 2007). In general, OT seems to improve the interpretation of social cues (Domes et al., 2007b, Kosfeld et al., 2005), especially the recognition of fear (Fischer-Shofty el al., 2010).. OT also facilitates the recognition of faces (Rimmele et al., 2009) most effectively when they express positive emotion (Guastella et al., 2008b, Savaskan et al., 2008). In the context of ASD associated with avoidance of eye contact it is important to mention that OT promotes a gaze-shift towards the eye region of presented faces (Guastella et al., 2008a) also independent of their valence as this normally occurs during presentation of fearful faces (Gamer & Buchel, 2009). In the context of OT promoting social bondings it is of interest to mention initial studies demonstrating that OT enhanced attachment security (Buchheim et al., 2009)

Yeah thanks on the oxyT reference. I've tried it years ago - believe "liquid trust" it was called. Real expensive. Very short duration and only worked up close. Might give it a whirl these days as everything has gone so "pro" compared to years ago with just few options/vendors etc (aside from the leading edge stuff drotics was doing).

I was shocked that OV helps and things with Vetiver. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a smattering of great perfumers were on the autism spectrum and unconsciously finding analogs for pheromones...

(07-08-2016 10:27 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  Yeah thanks on the oxyT reference. I've tried it years ago - believe "liquid trust" it was called. Real expensive. Very short duration and only worked up close. Might give it a whirl these days as everything has gone so "pro" compared to years ago with just few options/vendors etc (aside from the leading edge stuff drotics was doing).

I was shocked that OV helps and things with Vetiver. I wouldn't be surprised if more than a smattering of great perfumers were on the autism spectrum and unconsciously finding analogs for pheromones...

yes, the perfumers may be on to molecules that they "feel" or "like" without knowing how neuromodulating they really are aside from the chemosensory effects.

Post this here becuase Vetiver was discussed in this thread:

Good study on Vetiver EO neurological effects on rats:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4805151/

It's apparently really a alertness and concentration enhancing oil. I always thought it was calming/sedating - good to know to have a base-note sesquterpene heavy EO that might counteract/synergize with sedating stuff like Cedar and Sandalwood.

Vetiver EO increases Gamma-Brainwaves as well.