Dear all,

When I got into the mones game, it was out of curiosity and I strongly believed that it was all some kind of fashion or collective madness.

My scientific background could not explain precisely the mechanism behind and since I couldn't explain, I couldn't believe.

Now the problem is that I actually saw a difference in the behavior of people and I need someone to prove that it's just a coincidence.
It's not possible that these things work!!!

So i decided to share my 1st experiences (1 week using mones) and more will follow. I hope that you will come up with a logical explanation (self-confidence, springtime, anything).

My basic ammunition is: Glace, Androstadienone, Aqua Vitae, Wolf, and New Pheromone Additive.

I received all products last week (except the Alpha Dream ones that were ordered with 3 days delay. Congrats to Love-scent: delivery in three working days in Europe, amazing).

Test results:

Day 1. Lounge bar A:
Product: Acqua Vitae roller 2'' on each side of neck and 2'' on the inner side of each elbow.
Out with friend, to see him after long time. No intention on hitting on girls, just hanging around and having fun with him. Next table two girls 6-7. At the beginning they are looking at us, then starring. Then they initiate discussion. I become irritated cause I wanted to see my friend after long time, but they invite themselves to our table and offer to buy the drinks (didn't accept). We had to leave the bar to be in peace.

Day 2. Lounge bar B:
Product: Acqua Vitae roller 2'' on each side of neck and 2'' on the inner side of each elbow.
Same friend, different bar, same story. Two nurses (6-7 again), they offer us drinks, then sit with us on a sofa. I sit on the one side, then my friend then the two girls. I'm totally not in the playing mood (as explained in my introduction as a newbie, she must be special to get me interested), so I don't pay much attention to the girls. The girl next to my friend started approaching me and at some point she is all over him, has her hand on his leg (pretty high) and looks at me with big promising eyes. The 2nd girl comes to sit next to me, and I had to change sits explaining it gets too warm. Don't forget I was testing so I needed to stay calm. Clearly, when I said let's go (we had only one car) my friend and the girls were really pissed-off.

The end of the story is that my buddy calls me the next day and tells me that he goes out for girls with friends twice a week for the last couple of years and never had such an experience (girls hitting on us). His conclusion was that it has to do with me: "You look totally different. You were always confident and good at approaching girls but now you just sit back and they come to you. Have you found some kind of magic lamp and if that's the case, can I rub it too"?
In any case, I promised to go out with him until he finds someone. When and if the mones are proved, he will be the first to be introduced to them.
Question to the experts: Is it possible that there is some kind of mones-projection? That both groups of girls got excited by my mones but hit on my friend cause I was not responding? Or it was just his charm and the mones have nothing to do?

Day 3 morning
Barbecue with partners in the office
Product: 2 sprays of Wolf 1 on chest and 1 on wrists
Everybody very friendly, talked mainly business and they announce to me that I have to take a position in a new venture we start and get some shares there too. Probably coincidence, cause I'm really good at my work...

Day 3 theater
Purpose: Check the OD effect
Aqua Vitae: chest 2 rolls 4'', side necks 2x2'', arms 2x4''
Wolf one big spray chest (on top of the morning ones)
Annoying smell that bothered me in the car. I arrive at the theater and none approaches me more than 2 meters. Problem with the sits, so they were happy that I had to sit separately. After the play I propose to go for drinks and they all felt very tired and needed to get up early (today is holiday, so I wonder why).

Back home: in the elevator an old lady neighbor (over 75) looks at me with big eyes and starts asking me how I'm doing, where I go on holidays, and how old I am... The OD effect on old ladies?!!!

Going to bed, I take off shirt and WOW!!! This thing was strong! After 5 minutes I had a headache and thought I couldn't breath. I rushed to the shower, put a t-shirt on and slept with all windows open. It was painful.

Day 4 - today
Since it's holiday I went shopping and get my cover essence (I will come back to that).
I showered in the morning but i could smell AV on my arms.
Went to the shop and a very pretty girl 8-9 comes to help. I tell her that I need samples cause I look for a new cologne and she replies not possible, only after purchase (stupid policy... once I bought my cologne I don't need samples!!!).
We start testing on papers to take with me and then she sprays her suggestion on my arm. After a couple of minutes, she asks me to smell my arm and then I have an amazing experience... She takes my arm smells a first time, then closes her eyes and smells again for a few seconds. I felt terrible. I though everybody was looking at us.
Anyway, she gave me 8 or 9 samples of different fragrances against their policy (she actually filled them one by one with the fragrances of my choice), totally ignored other customers and asked me to promise that when I decide, I will buy from her. I agreed telling her that she deserved the sale-commission.
Five minutes later on my way out, she looks at me with a teasing look and she says: "We receive no sale-commission"...

Besides the fact that I will try the mones trick on every attractive fragrances sales-woman, could that be that the OD effect after one night of sleep and 2 showers was transformed to the magic dose? If that's the case, is it possible to understand what would be the right dosage right from the beginning?

Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share the 1st findings.

Finally, I need a confirmation regarding dosing. Based on the product threads in the forum (read them all) and once all products are here, the dosing I intend to use is:
Glace: 3-4 sprays
AV: 2'' rolled on each side of neck + 2'' on each arm/wrist
Androstadienone: one drop behind each ear
Wolf: 2 sprays, one front neck, one split between wrists
New Pheromone Additive: on very special occasions, mixed with cover essence 1:4 or 1:5

Does that seem like a rational dosing?
When I mix different products should I change the individual dosing?
I intend to mix them as follows (although I will try other combinations too):
Glace + Wolf work
Glace + AV + Androstadienone clubbing and intimate
New Pheromone Additive when the moment comes...


Finally, any suggestions on the cover essence? My shortlist is:
Hermes terre d hommes EDT or EDP, Creed: Green Irish Tweed or Aventus, YSL la nuit de l homme, channel allure sport, dior homme intense. Any suggestion welcomed.

Sorry again for the long posting, looking forward to your comments and feedback.

PS. Should the thread be moved to the Journals section?

You want us to justify why the effects you repeatedly saw couldn't be attirbuted to pheromones and must be just a coincidence?

Yeah, that's the reason why we're all here, many of us who have been using pheromnones for years and spent tons of money on them: Because they don't work!

As to why your question about mones projection. Sounds more to me like your friend made the girls feel welcome, while you just sat there getting irritated and made them feel like you didn't wnat them there.

I know people that are skeptical and pessimistic, but even they will sway their minds once they see results.

Cmon Mark, don't get offended. I apologize if my exaggeration was misunderstood. The reason why I wrote what I wrote is exactly the opposite: that mones work better than expected. I was skeptical (not anymore) and definitely not pessimistic.
And of course I'm not asking you to give alternative explanations. I just exaggerated cause it was unbelievable experiencing what I've been reading in here.
If I didn't believe, I wouldn't be here and I wouldn't have spent 300USD just as a trial. Neither would I spend 1hr writing sharing my experiences and asking for further advice.

The projection thing I was referring to is related to the extend that pheromones can be attributed to a specific person. So can someone really understand the source of the pheromones, or they become part of the setting in very crowded environments?

Anyway, I apologize again if I offended you or any other member and trust me, given the recent results you cannot find better ambassador for the mones in Greece.

(06-04-2012 10:55 AM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  You want us to justify why the effects you repeatedly saw couldn't be attirbuted to pheromones and must be just a coincidence?

Yeah, that's the reason why we're all here, many of us who have been using pheromnones for years and spent tons of money on them: Because they don't work!

As to why your question about mones projection. Sounds more to me like your friend made the girls feel welcome, while you just sat there getting irritated and made them feel like you didn't wnat them there.

I know people that are skeptical and pessimistic, but even they will sway their minds once they see results.

Fair enough, It appeared to me as if you might have been looking for anything you could grasp to prove the pheromones did not effect people.

On initial sense arousal, the targets may not know exactly who is causing them to be affected, but once in fairly close proximity their snouts will narrow down and pinpoint the exact source. Ever met a few girls or a group of girls and within a very short time felt chemistry and a special connection with one of them? Yep, guess why.....her pheromone signature set her apart.

But, if that girl ignored you and acted like she didn't want you around, but another girl in the group showed an interest in you, you'd probably ignore the girl that you actually felt the attraction towards and talkl to the one that seemed interested in yiou, right? I think that's probably what happened on days 1 and 2 of your testing.

Damn Mark you were in the air force when I was born in 81. You don't look that old. Must be all that plastic surgery

Welcome El_Greco,

Last things first: yes this thread needs to be moved to the men's journal section. Your first post here reads like a journal.

Your basic ammo is a veritable who's who of proven products: Glace, Androstadienone, Aqua Vitae, Wolf, and New Pheromone Additive. Sounds like you've been reading as33156's journal! Who hasn't?

Good stuff; keep the intel coming.

(06-04-2012 2:27 PM)as33156 Wrote:  Damn Mark you were in the air force when I was born in 81. You don't look that old. Must be all that plastic surgery

Nah, my owners and verteranarian take pretty good care of me though, but I'm a little worried that after they put up that avatar of me up they may be plotting to get me fixed.

Good to find you Dafixisin.

Any ideas on how I can move it to the journal section without opening new thread?

Maybe the admin(s) can help.

Thx in advance

Don't know how you do that. Maybe just cut and paste your 1st post and do a reset with a new thread. Maybe apply a strip of Wolf just above your upper lip, inhale the inspiration and see where that takes you!

Hiya

In response to this "That both groups of girls got excited by my mones but hit on my friend cause I was not responding? Or it was just his charm and the mones have nothing to do?"

Pheromones will effect everyone around you, if you and your buddy are close to each other then the girls may not know where the signal is coming from. There are social mones and there are also steering mones as well. In situations like that..I like to go wander off to the bathroom then wander the bar a bit. This way the signal you're projecting won't be present anymore and th girls will notice it when you come back.

Plus pheromones isn't mind control, they won't work if you put no effort in as well.

As for cover scents I use armani black code but it doesn't seem to cover the smell of Glace at all. I might have to find something else. Glace is unscented but I can smell it big time.