Can it be done?

It can easily be done but I don't think New Pheromone Additive is anywhere near concentrated enough to make an effective oil. You would need a substantial number of drops at the final strength to compensate for the much slower diffusion.

See how I think from here, just the other day:

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Can-I-mix-my-New Pheromone Additive-with-grape-seed

Quote:The main issue I see with oiling New Pheromone Additive is that it is concentrated at 2.5mg (total) in 15ml for alcohol dilution, which works out a lot less than any oil base phero I've used and to be effective, oils need a much higher dose than the equivalent volume of alcohol - eg Alter Ego claims 3.375mg in 7.5ml and Alpha 7 claims 7mg in 10ml - which work out at approx 0.45 and 0.7 mg/ml respectively, which is far higher than the 0.166mg/ml you get in undiluted New Pheromone Additive.

So to make anything effective, you are going to need to find a way to concentrate your New Pheromone Additive at least fourfold and probably more to retain its considerable impact and as I've no idea how much of its original phero content would be lost to any evaporative method, I think you may be on a hiding to nothing.

Then you have another problem in that individual Pheromones don't all concentrate at the same rate in oil and you are going to need to factor that into the equation - and we don't know the exact proportion of New Pheromone Additive's component Pheromones to begin with.

Have you considered mixing it into moisturiser instead? That's another method I've seen used to manage diffusion and you can do it and vary it on the fly - which could be a lot less wasteful in the long run.

Alternatively, Edge Essentials is supposed to be a similar formula in an oil dosing but I've not tried it yet.

(03-06-2013 9:38 PM)Wanghan Wrote:  Can it be done?

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(03-07-2013 1:06 AM)shadowknight Wrote:  Some years back I asked the same question
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Very interesting info, shadow. Thanks.

Did you finally got the right ratios?

Did it gave you similar results to regular New Pheromone Additive?

Thanks.

I dont know why you would want it as an oil its lasts a good 8hrs anyway, making it an oil will just dampen diffusion and decrease the reach of your cloud.

I haven't tried to compared them.

From the times I have used it I have seen hits from it.
I have seen girls do the Deer in the headlights also saw this guy get possessive of his girl they were next to me at end of night they were on other side of group.
It can be coincidence but I saw this guy give me bad looks.

I made it an oil because the New Pheromone Additive dropper sucks and i wanted to control my dosage by starting small. Also I was living in south Texas and dam it gets hot.

One time I sprayed mones and i believe they evaporated because if the humidity because I got no selfeffects and the smell vanished right after..

(03-07-2013 3:16 PM)shadowknight Wrote:  I haven't tried to compared them.

From the times I have used it I have seen hits from it.
I have seen girls do the Deer in the headlights also saw this guy get possessive of his girl they were next to me at end of night they were on other side of group.
It can be coincidence but I saw this guy give me bad looks.

I made it an oil because the New Pheromone Additive dropper sucks and i wanted to control my dosage by starting small. Also I was living in south Texas and dam it gets hot.

One time I sprayed mones and i believe they evaporated because if the humidity because I got no selfeffects and the smell vanished right after..

Just use New Pheromone Additive with an oil based mone like av or wolf or ascend. That will help slow diffusion for you.

(03-07-2013 5:40 PM)Nicola3 Wrote:  Just use New Pheromone Additive with an oil based mone like av or wolf or ascend. That will help slow diffusion for you.

But then the effects will be altered.

I did something like this a while ago. I used .25 ml of New Pheromone Additive, a some drops of glycerin, and a few sprays of cologne. I don't remember the exact formula but the mixture was just thick enough that it didn't pour out of the dropper bottle. Nicely formed drops.

If you had to guess, what molecules and ratios would I need? The only 2 molecules I know are in there are -stenone, and Androstadienone . I think there is probably -stanone, -sterone, A-stenol and possibly B-stenol and more.