For my second purchase with this company here is what I went. Do you guys haveany suggestions or reviews on these products. Ive read a couple form this forum but some of them seem outdated with no current updates or reviews I wanted to see if somone had anything new to report here.

(08-14-2011 3:07 PM)AnthonyJFranks Wrote:  For my second purchase with this company here is what I went with any suggestions or reviews on these products. Ive read a couple form this forum but some of them seem outdated with no current updates or reviews I wanted to see if somone had anything new to report here.

Ok here is an update re True Love i still have 1/2 of my original bottle left as i only need 2 sprays to notice good consistant results and i am expecting an order of another 3 bottles of TL to arrive this week, oh yeah re True Alpha, a friend gifted me a mL of this or roundabouts and at two drops this works excellent for the attraction of young women 18-25, however i have not been able to get it to work for me with older women even at 3 dr or more sigh, but certainly positive reactions from many very young women

Actually I would argue that much of the information here on these products are fairly current. TI especially is a product with new reviews and information, much of which has been contributed by myself.

TA and TL have got quite a bit of recent attention too and they are fantastic products as well. The only one I haven't seen any recent information on is XXX. This may be because it appears to be a strictly AndrosteNONE based product, and many of us already have something for that (for example, I use New Pheromone Additive). A benefit of XXX is it is oil based (New Pheromone Additive is not).

I guarantee you'll see nice results with True Alpha and True Instinct-- Try 2-3 drops of True Alpha to start. 3 is where I see my best results. It only takes 1-2 drops to see results with True Instinct.

True Love is a bit tricky. The Methoxyestratetraenone in it makes hits a little inconsistent, but it certainly adds a little *something* to the situation. Try TA + TL and it should catch you some nice attention.

By the way, welcome to the forums.

(08-14-2011 4:35 PM)txi0m Wrote:  Actually I would argue that much of the information here on these products are fairly current. TI especially is a product with new reviews and information, much of which has been contributed by myself.

TA and TL have got quite a bit of recent attention too and they are fantastic products as well. The only one I haven't seen any recent information on is XXX. This may be because it appears to be a strictly AndrosteNONE based product, and many of us already have something for that (for example, I use New Pheromone Additive). A benefit of XXX is it is oil based (New Pheromone Additive is not).

I guarantee you'll see nice results with True Alpha and True Instinct-- Try 2-3 drops of True Alpha to start. 3 is where I see my best results. It only takes 1-2 drops to see results with True Instinct.

True Love is a bit tricky. The Methoxyestratetraenone in it makes hits a little inconsistent, but it certainly adds a little *something* to the situation. Try TA + TL and it should catch you some nice attention.

By the way, welcome to the forums.

You keep talking about True instinct in abundance. I talked to you before about it and I seem convinced that it is a good product. However, I have yet to see how is it different from other Androstenone's, like Turn Up The Heat for example.

Take care

SS

(08-14-2011 4:35 PM)txi0m Wrote:  True Love is a bit tricky. The Methoxyestratetraenone in it makes hits a little inconsistent, but it certainly adds a little *something* to the situation.

txi0m, i've actually used TL with NOTICEABLY more success when used in conjunction with an equal amount of Instant Honesty. Its comfort factor goes way up and seems to lay a fantastic ground to increase kino. I had a short conversation with Pago once about the merits of adding more socials to an already social product but there doesn't seem to be any solid answer for it other than it simply works. I have not tried it with glace nor True Comm and my single molecules have Alpha Androstenol or Beta Androstenol have yet to arrive so i cannot confirm anything. Results weren't so spectacular with just TL by itself though. My friends, whom i have given samples to, pretty much concur the same thing. Can't comment about the attraction factor as my focus have mainly been on social or work mixes.

At the very least, the original scented TL coupled with AD's Neroli seems to make the scent much more palatable for me

It would be great if you could try it out one day and let me know how that went for you

(08-14-2011 5:10 PM)SeriousSmile Wrote:  You keep talking about True instinct in abundance. I talked to you before about it and I seem convinced that it is a good product. However, I have yet to see how is it different from other Androstenone's, like Turn Up The Heat for example.

Take care

SS

Glad you asked. There are a few places where I've described the difference between TI and a typical NONE product, but not many.

The main difference is a NONE product gives off raw sexual power (New Pheromone Additive is similar to Turn Up The Heat; read here). It has nothing to buffer, tame, or balance the scales with.. Which is why you'll see combos such as New Pheromone Additive + Scent of Eros , or perhaps Turn Up The Heat + an equivalent social.

It is FUN to unleash that sexual power sometimes. But it's not always appropriate, and may cause intimidation. As powerful as I've heard and seen New Pheromone Additive to be, you'll occasionally be met with last minute resistance or temporary hesitation in women.

This is where a rounded NONE product like TI or Alpha-7 comes in. They have socials (TI has a/b NOL, a/b Androsterone) tossed into the formula at premeasured ratios. If I'm wearing TI, I often don't need to wear any other social products. In the case of my TA+TI combo, sometimes it's better without an additional social.

So instead of giving off raw sexual energy, you're giving off sexual energy masked with fun and outgoing vibes. In general it's better for day to day use, but you should always pick which product you wear based on the scenario... I prefer TI's smoothness, but nothing beats the rush of sexual intimidation.

(08-14-2011 5:22 PM)mengster Wrote:  txi0m, i've actually used TL with NOTICEABLY more success when used in conjunction with an equal amount of Instant Honesty. Its comfort factor goes way up and seems to lay a fantastic ground to increase kino. I had a short conversation with Pago once about the merits of adding more socials to an already social product but there doesn't seem to be any solid answer for it other than it simply works. I have not tried it with glace nor True Comm and my single molecules have Alpha Androstenol or Beta Androstenol have yet to arrive so i cannot confirm anything. Results weren't so spectacular with just TL by itself though. My friends, whom i have given samples to, pretty much concur the same thing. Can't comment about the attraction factor as my focus have mainly been on social or work mixes.

At the very least, the original scented TL coupled with AD's Neroli seems to make the scent much more palatable for me

It would be great if you could try it out one day and let me know how that went for you

Hmm... Have you tried it with Instant Openness? What is supposedly in Instant Honesty? If it's just NOL, then it shouldn't be too difficult to replicate with other manufacturer's products (boycotting AD best I can).

I have some Instant Openness left, so I may be able to test it with that. Dunno about Honesty though. I will certainly test with TComm/TO (TComm is rumored 50:50 on a/b NOL w/Androstadienone ; TO is 70:30 on a/b NOL) and Glace when it arrives!

Thanks for explanation Txi0m. Your link redirects me to Pheromonetalk's main page.

Cheers

SS

(08-14-2011 8:31 PM)SeriousSmile Wrote:  Thanks for explanation Txi0m. Your link redirects me to Pheromonetalk's main page.

No problem man. Here's one that will definitely work:
http://goo.gl/mTdw6

It's the forum's stupid auto replace that's changing N.P.A (without periods) to New Pheromone Additive in the URL. lol

I'll edit that new link into my post above.

Awesome, Olfact did a good job of explaining it.

Cheers

SS

I feel you on the androtics matter.

Actually i have but the results turned out to be as good as not adding it. That being said though, i think my big bottle of IO i used it with is a dud because i never received any of the effects i got as compared to my togo equivalent. Needless to say i have tried it by itself and i have come to the conclusion that it might just be neroli but let's leave that topic for another time.

I think i remembered IO and IH to be Alpha Androstenol and Beta Androstenol of differing ratios and some steering molecules with IH being predominantly Beta Androstenol. maybe True Comm or True Open might work. I'll run another test once my single molecules arrive.

(08-14-2011 8:20 PM)txi0m Wrote:  Hmm... Have you tried it with Instant Openness? What is supposedly in Instant Honesty? If it's just NOL, then it shouldn't be too difficult to replicate with other manufacturer's products (boycotting AD best I can).

I have some Instant Openness left, so I may be able to test it with that. Dunno about Honesty though. I will certainly test with TComm/TO (TComm is rumored 50:50 on a/b NOL w/Androstadienone ; TO is 70:30 on a/b NOL) and Glace when it arrives!