-amines have been on my radar too. It seems that replacing the OH with NH2 is the key.

At 45g/mol it should diffuse like a mad dog.

There are about a zillion -amines. Could be a gold mine!

(05-23-2011 2:32 PM)dbot Wrote:  ZOMG! Found another one: Dimethylamine. This is known to be used as a pheromone by cockroaches, and is excreted in human urine. Molar mass is just 45 g/mol.



$20 on Amazon! Zing!

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EDIT: Correction, the product I found on amazon is Dimethylamylamine (DMAA), also known as Methylhexanamine.

Used as an inhalable nasal decongestant and as a workout stimulant, this molecule weighs in at 115g/mol, and I'd say it's still pretty likely to have pheromone properties.

Hmmm, I haven't tried out my DHEA mix yet. I lost 3/5 of it trying to filter it. lol.

What makes you think TAA is DHEA? Does it need to be refreshed every hour or so?

(05-23-2011 4:00 PM)dbot Wrote:  DHEA has now been upgraded to the known pheromones list based on previous reports and on my own experiences wearing it today! Is this TAA?

(05-23-2011 6:48 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  -amines have been on my radar too. It seems that replacing the OH with NH2 is the key.

At 45g/mol it should diffuse like a mad dog.

There are about a zillion -amines. Could be a gold mine!

Yeah I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that phenylethylamine was now being sold as a supplement. This is the stuff that makes chocolate give you that special feeling of fulfillment. This is what your brain goes crazy with when you're in the throes of new love.

Back in my more drug-seeking days I wondered what it would be like to ingest this stuff orally. I'm going to have to give it a try when I get some. It sounds like it should take a couple hours to metabolize, and I'll bet those hours will be pretty real

I shudder to think what kind of magical pheromone effects this stuff might be capable of! I'm stoked!


Oh and I'll post more details about my DHEA tests over in the DHEA thread momentarily.

I think I'm not going to strain or filter any more. I'm using ethanol as a solvent and the rice powder settles right out. My "seed batch" will leave the spray head at 310mcg/sp, so just one spray into a to-go will give me 7.7mcg, 2 sprays will be 15.4mcg. I can turn my "seed batch" on it's side and let the particles settle away from the intake. That will be much easier than trying to filter.

My seed batch containers are those super-cheap Bod Man sprays from the dollar store. 30mL of cheap cologne in a spray bottle costs $1. I've been pouring out the cheap cologne, but I think I'll start using it as my solvent so I use less everclear. A ratio of 1:40 or 2:40 of cheap cologne to my PA should be okay. Helps to keep the cost down too.

Actually, the one called "Sexiest Musk Fantasy" smells a bit like Le Male to me. I'm embarrassed to say I sorta like it. lol.

Either way, I'm not going to filter anymore. Too messy.

Edit: Almost forgot, I measured these cheap spray bottles and they are 185 microLiters per spray. I like this slightly higher spray volume since it spreads the product over a larger area.

Jaycee nailed it,
Did another cap, (One cap 100 mg/ 10ml PA) no filter. Let it sit over night instill powder settled. Stuck pipette a little past half way in mix, take my sample. Atomizer application is 52 mcg per spray, two sprays.

Pregnenolone ------------------------------------------------ 13 drops
(200 mcg drops x 13 = 2600 mcg)
(2600mcg ÷ 50 (sprays) = 52 mcg per spray)

DPG --------------------------------------------- 13 drops

PA ----------------------------------------------- 99 drops

WOW! Big difference
Excited, gigged, I feel heart pounding, Motivated
I feel like I've sprayed shine right in my face
I didn't think a pheromone could do me like this anymore.
And to think, a life time supply for a couple of dollars

I finally got a decent supply of ethanol, so I'm going to mix up a batch with alcohol and see how it compares to the FCO batch I've been using.

(05-27-2011 10:06 AM)dbot Wrote:  I finally got a decent supply of ethanol, so I'm going to mix up a batch with alcohol and see how it compares to the FCO batch I've been using.

Where did you get it dbot?

I ended up having to drive out to the suburbs for work every week or two, and everclear is legal to sell out there.

If anybody's got a mind to test some totally unknown designer steroids, here's a really good reference on the chemicals available through bodybuilding stores: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/...rmone.html

Some of these may be a little heavy for diffusion as pheromones, but what the heck! Take one for the team, and send me a few capsules while you're at it ;)

Hey guys, do your solution turn clear? because mine is still really white and murky. I'm using caps from the vitamin shoppe if anyone else here does as well.