(06-07-2017 9:27 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  To me e-None in a certain dose or purity or concentration I get a so called E-None rage. It's the EXACT same rage I used to have when I've hit puberty. It's hard to control it but am learning. May be and this is a big MAY BE, that's what e-None does. Make a male look fresh like he's in his teenages. (Judging from the rage I get) and in turns make the females around ya feel like "wow he's fresh, I'd like to try him for a bit"

One way I recognize if a product has E-None is that rage mentioned above. But it's weird how some products do that to me and some don't.

New Pheromone Additive from Love-Scent contains Alpha Androstenol with the Androstenone , New Pheromone Additive from Lacroy does not I found out. Interestingly, Titan from Apex also has Alpha Androstenol with the Androstenone. I believe what happens is that the Androstenol converts to Androstenone over time, especially in heat, and causes the rage. Androstadienone also converts over application time. So I think I have 'solved' why some products do and some dont, some add to the Androstenone over time through conversions.

I also am looking into purity now being a factor. It appears that vendors like Lacroy claim the highest purity, and interestingly, their product now hits more smooth and men do not respond aggressively as much. Their old version men got aggressive and it hit the women like a truck. I have brought this to their attention and Chris at AD etc and curious as to what they may reply. This may be a factor in why old versions of products that used Androstenone feel different today. This is what I have been researching behind the scenes for awhile trying to verify they did not change the formulas, but its things like the purity that are the difference, which once understood, could be modified.

(06-08-2017 1:13 PM)DataDragon Wrote:  New Pheromone Additive from Love-Scent contains Alpha Androstenol with the Androstenone , New Pheromone Additive from Lacroy does not I found out. Interestingly, Titan from Apex also has Alpha Androstenol with the Androstenone. I believe what happens is that the Androstenol converts to Androstenone over time, especially in heat, and causes the rage. Androstadienone also converts over application time. So I think I have 'solved' why some products do and some dont, some add to the Androstenone over time through conversions.

But I don't get the rage on Titan.

(06-08-2017 3:05 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  But I don't get the rage on Titan.

You got the rage on New Pheromone Additive Love Scent oil but not New Pheromone Additive Lacroy, that was the key.
I found out the only pheromone part that is different (from Lacroy) is the A-nol. The Titan sales page just reminded me that it converts to E-none, as does Androstadienone eventually. Titan happens to have other buffers like Androstanone that likely compensate and no Androstadienone , but a few people mentioned agitation later on even buffered. If the starting point of Androstenone is high and you convert more A-nol/Androstadienone to Androstenone, you should experience rage or agitation at least. This is likely why its not in ALL product, as some may contain the additional buffers as well unlike New Pheromone Additive.