(10-16-2015 12:45 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Paradox.

Regarding NA and AM above.

With NA have you ever laid a NEW woman? People seem to qualify it as a relationship product best saved for the GF or wife, and only serious relationships.

With AM do you only recommend it at clubs and bars? Does it not work on traditional dates at resto-bar venues, high end beauty parlours, modelling conventions etc? You've mentioned to me in PM you laid several new women with AM but you had to figure it out. What was the hard part about figuring it out? Do tell. Either respond here or by PM to me.

thanks

P.S for the record I am not posting my top 5 at the present time as things are changing... I really have more like a top 3.

dsouza

NA for me is really a base or workmix the way A314 was. Most of the time I use NA solo at work.

It took me half a bottle of AM to figure out exactly what it was doing. My main problem with AM is the libido drain that Androstenedione give me. I often wait until I am already at the venue before I put it on. Sometimes i have to really concentrate to keep my mind away from the Androstenedione telling me to just give it up and go home.

However, women love AM so I wear it. AM works in all venues and across all age ranges.

I like M3X a bit more because I don't have to fight the urge to just give up and go home.

Women love Androstenedione but it's hard on men. Some men even get depressed while wearing it.

AM has about 12+ ingredients and those type of complex mixes need time to figure out. They require time for the user to adjust to, time to stew. Techniques have to be adjusted...

Grrrrrrr! Right when I've decided to pull the trigger on NA, BW starts getting long overdue respect.

I don't want to derail this thread, but what sort of environments have you seen Mx3's effects?

My list:

1. Wolf
2. Xist
3. AV
4. Evolve (tie)
4. Voracious (tie) - The smell alone keeps it in the top tier for me. Works well with a few dabs of Evolve.

Ok, I can't really add a top 5 without either including mixes that I love (like Scent of Eros + New Pheromone Additive), or products that I don't feel I've tested sufficiently (the list is endless). So I'll give a top 2 for now:

1) Evolve XS Spray
Evolve isn't perfect, but I like it. I've now done considerable testing of this product at work, and some testing socially. However, despite originally buying it to enhance sex with my partner, I've yet to actually give it a proper test in that context.

I usually wear as a solo. One spray of Evolve covered by two sprays of Hugo.

At work Evolve gets me respect from men and women. It also gets me attraction from women on an ascending scale depending on age. The older the woman, the stronger the attraction. Younger women may be attracted too, but they don't show it as much, perhaps due to the intimidation from the none. I guess the turning point is around age 30.

Socially it makes people talk a lot, but is not human velco. It can cast a spell of conversation generation, but the spell can be broken. Younger women will start to show attraction and signs of sexually desire after a few drinks.

Relationship/Sexual My partner absolutely loves the smell of this mixed with Hugo when I come home from work and she adores the smell of my shirts! However, usually I shower at the gym before getting home from work, so the times I've tested it around her are very limited, and even more limited (perhaps on one occasion worn solo) when applied fresh.

2) Scent of Eros
It's as old as the hills, but it works. When wearing solo, I usually use 12 inches of the roll on version covered by a couple of sprays of Hugo or 4/5 sprays of Ralph Lauren Polo Blue. My partner loves the smell of both of these, but slightly less so than Hugo + Evolve. However, it's probably the only unscented product that I feel confident wearing solo without cover. It just smells like fresh sweat - but pleasant fresh sweat. Sometimes I apply it close to my arm pits.

This is my favourite relationship enhancing product and I have worn it during sex. My partner expresses a lot of love when I wear this (even more so than usual) and is obviously turned on - lots of deep kissing and escalation attempts on her part. This may be because it's a mood improver and a mild sexual, which is perhaps all I really need within the context of an existing affectionate and loving relationship.
Also I've seen effects on others from enhanced friendliness to arousal.

It also combos well with Evolve, New Pheromone Additive or straight androstenone and is an excellent base.

NA is just a fantastic slow burn product if your with a woman that you have been with before and cuddling on the sofa with.

Better that any hard hitting mone! They smell it and want you inside their pussy so don't wear it if your not up to putting out.

Once again we derailed this thread but would love to hear the top 5 and why.

@Ancillian

Have you ever tried Scent of Eros (accepted)Sandalwood amazing smell

(10-16-2015 3:11 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  @Ancillian

Have you ever tried Scent of Eros (accepted)Sandalwood amazing smell

Yes. I used to use scented Scent of Eros gel packs. They smelled amazing! I probably got more compliments from that smell than any that I've ever used. Furthermore, it was an incredible 'none cover. Even my brother, who is even more sensitive to 'none than I am could barely smell New Pheromone Additive beneath it.

The reason I currently use unscented is because scented Scent of Eros smelled too good! Everyone would ask where I got it from, and I couldn't think of a good, sustainable lie! Easier to cover with a well known scent like Hugo and give a nice easy answer

Paradox,

What you're referring to is Androstenedienone. Androstenedione is a completely different molecule reported to act similar to Androstenone. It may seem a small difference, but those few characters can make an enormous difference.

I'm going to give this a few more months with all the products I have to test out, but I suspect this will be an all-Apex year for me so far.

1)xist/BW
2)p series (p97/p96/p93/p86/p83/p75/p74/TAA/TAL/TAH/TAF/TAC)
3)Wolf/AV
4)TBD
5)TBD

(10-16-2015 9:36 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Paradox,

What you're referring to is Androstenedienone. Androstenedione is a completely different molecule reported to act similar to Androstenone. It may seem a small difference, but those few characters can make an enormous difference.

I'm going to give this a few more months with all the products I have to test out, but I suspect this will be an all-Apex year for me so far.

Aren't we actually talking about androstadienone when it comes to AM and potential for depression?

(10-17-2015 4:18 AM)Ancillian Wrote:  Aren't we actually talking about androstadienone when it comes to AM and potential for depression?

You're correct, sorry about that.