(07-14-2016 3:33 PM)metaltree Wrote:  @dsouza, what are your thoughts on Overdose Gel these days. Did it come close to making your honorouble mention list?

No , Only because I break out like crazy when I wear it.. I don't know if its due to the cops that are heavy in it or due to an allergy to the solution.. In either case I don't wear it anymore.

[quote='dsouza' pid='187297' dateline='1468484646']
My top 5 after some more time has elapsed:

2. Max T 150 -- I use this simple product numerous times a week. Mostly for working out but ALSO on days I don't use other mones since I find it keeps my sex drive and muscle gains up. MaxT150 smells good in its carrier , will increase your testosterone levels and has some great self effects. Some have also combo'ed with BW. Maxt150 is dirt cheap, and lasts forever.

Dsouza, have you used Master. It is supposed to be the same type of product as Max T150 ie strictly used for self effects. If you have used both, I would like to know how you would compare the two. Thanks

Okay, I came to this forum seeking a replacement for early years A314 or even a reasonable equivalent to the half-way decent 2011 Rev32 batch. Many will be surprised by these recommendations:

1. MX353. This is the closest thing I've found to old school A314 on the sexual front. This is a recent purchase and it is a great balance of fun, energy, friendly, sexual and kinky. It doesn't ghost me, it doesn't beta, and it doesn't go over board. It just works for me. Go ahead and mock me and wave your M3X torches...

2. nNPA. Closes every time. Raw sexual. Up to you to steer it. Lasts a lifetime.

3. The steering agents. T150 & P96. Two way tie. Wisely used can take just about any mone to the next level. 96 is the ultimate Androstadienone alternative. T150 can take you from friendly to downright "dirty in a hurry" depending on pairing.

4. Alter Ego Gel. Been loving it since 2003. Never grow tired of its old school balance of nol, Androsterone and none. Up to you to steer. Not bulletproof, but simple as hell. Open, lock, close. May be dethroned by Ascend except that I loves da' gels.

5. Currently held by Wolf as a great general purpose workplace that can be steered in different directions. Currently seeking a slightly more alpha version of this with just as much social openness. Yeah, it isn't really sexual but sometimes a buddy mone comes in handy.


Things I am still working may way thru (not rated):
Aurental
Captain
Swoon
AT, DW, DP, DM
L2Kv1 and L2Kv2
AM
SDX9
Tons O' Socials
10+ Putatives


Background notes
I'm a 49 YO white male in North America with no major issues on the game front.
Not into the PUA and not out to impress the crowd.
I'm in the happy wind down from prime years sexually. Still enjoy but have other priorities now.
I get lethargy from Androstadienone . I have super sensitive nose and hate the smell of nearly all mones and putatives, especially prior to dry down.
Been using mones lightly since about 2003 maybe earlier with a few years in between that they sat forgotten in a drawer.
Don't go to clubs. Not in a field where I have to intimidate. Try not to wear mones a majority of the time - currently about 20% of waking hours (around 24 hours a week)

(07-14-2016 6:05 PM)kehawe Wrote:  [quote='dsouza' pid='187297' dateline='1468484646']


Dsouza, have you used Master. It is supposed to be the same type of product as Max T150 ie strictly used for self effects. If you have used both, I would like to know how you would compare the two. Thanks

Never used Master, and if my hunch is right its a pretty dated product.. LAL has winning blends .. They're basically my favorite vendor right now so I stick to them.. Notice my top 5 is all LAL.

There are many old products that are not "dated" so to speak. Master doesn't strike me as one of them. I'm still interested in testing this mix. MAX T-150 was much too weak for me. I prefer Essence of Woman for self-effects (Essence Oil from LPMP for lasting power).

(07-15-2016 9:34 AM)Ekscentra Wrote:  There are many old products that are not "dated" so to speak. Master doesn't strike me as one of them. I'm still interested in testing this mix. MAX T-150 was much too weak for me. I prefer Essence of Woman for self-effects (Essence Oil from LPMP for lasting power).

We should move the Master/T150/Cops thread somewhere else so as not to hijack this one. I have used Master and self effects are a bit similar but seem a bit delayed compared to T150. When I use T150, I cake it on. T150 smells great, so it is stealth. Master seems to have other ingredients (maybe none and Androsterone) so it gives a less horny more measured in charge feel. I haven't used master in the bedroom with any success. Master fits a "corporate" need and gives me a boost on the prowl. T150 will project. I've never used master to project. Anyhow, let's start a new thread for cops..

(07-14-2016 8:48 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote:  SDX9

just a pet peeve ... people keep saying SDX9.... it's SXD9..... as in 69

In not specific order, as everything is for a different situation:

M3X, BW, L2Kv1, Evolve oil, NNPA