As good as the tool is ... as good as you are ...

the better you know how to use the tool ... the more valueable the tool becomes for you ...

it always depends on the context you´re using the mones .. have you chosen the right stuff ... do you know what effects it will have in that situation .. can you adapt yourself on what the mone causes ... etc .. etc ..

i do not like the idea of are mones 10% or 50% ...

for me it´s important .. can they give me the extra edge i need in a situation ...

just an example .... sometimes good game is all with women... sometimes you do not need game ... now somebody comes along and says that Game makes only 10% ...

Pago

Wow this is an awesome thread. I love reminiscing about the good old days, setting myself up for the days to come. I remember when I first stumbled onto PT seeing an advertisement about Erox or something. Prompted me to do a Google search, and I'm now part of the community that allowed me to achieve more personal growth in 4 months than I achieved in the last year. I dove into a world that, in my opinion, adds the icing and cherry on top of the cake.

I can attest to everything Mango and Thundr have said. It's all evidenced there in my journal for you guys. This whole world allowed me an introspective glance that I never thought possible. I have never shaped up this quickly ever. My senses are more keen, I'm more in tune with myself and interactions going on around me. I tend to listen more than I talk, and when I talk (most of the time) it's after clear, well-thought out processes.

Damn do the blatant hits work, but I don't think you can attribute a %, like some here have said, to how much mones help or don't help. When I got my blatant ass hits, I'm pretty sure it was 85-90%. When I made the mones work, they helped me steer things in a different direction giving me 2-5% max. Its not about these bullshit percentages and how much they should help and how much they shouldn't. Mones should NEVER be your to-go when you aren't congruent or ready to do so. They should, IMHO, be a social engineering tool, that you use for fun, or to kind of steer things in your favor (if the situation calls for it like work).

Just like the title, too many people are having unrealistic expectations from this, just because a select few (AS3) have almost turned their life around with them. But again, even he evolved as a person, rather just depending on them.