That would explain the way his products act on others. With Voodoo, the more you put on the more social it becomes and the same goes with Bad Wolf. Still effect at 1 drop for effects on others but even better the more you put on (disregarding the negative effects people get from too much Voodoo). I still have yet to try more drops again of Voodoo. I believe i got this lethargy from 6+ drops of Voodoo but i think it might have been from something else, though the only way to find out would be to try. Ill do it in a couple of days. Right now im testing out 40mcg Androstadienone , 2 drops Ascend and moving the dose of Taboo around to see any things i may have missed before. Androstadienone for raggy next to me (comfort and less menstrual cramps yadayada), Ascend for myself and for Androsterone effects on others, and testing out Taboo again. 2 drops Taboo before would get me noticeable reactions of social networking, though to me it feels a bit too soft on its own, however, the Androsterone in Ascend seems to sit it quite nicely in a respectable fashion, and Androstadienone doesn't mess with it. I'm thinking i may do Ascend 2 drops, Androstadienone 40mcg, and Voodoo at 4 drops in a couple of days as she is ending her rag period and then push it up on the nols to supplement my experiments and let you guys know if i notice anything different about her reactions. If it works i wish to replicate it with the rest of your imputs by providing you all doses and what products are used in the process.

Had anyone tried Xist, Voodoo and Nude Alpha together?

Haven't seen anyone - anyone - report on Voodoo/NA combinations but me.

Anyone out there tried, but not written about it?

(06-19-2015 4:57 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Garry often picks herbs from South America and extracts them to use in his blends. I believe there are two of these in Voodoo, and one in Bad Wolf, one of them a stimulant, the other a substance that increases cortisol.

This is a bit of a concern to me. Too much cortisol is very unhealthy. Did you hear from Garry himself that those herbs are being used? And which product contains the substance that increases cortisol?

(06-19-2015 4:57 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Garry often picks herbs from South America and extracts them to use in his blends. I believe there are two of these in Voodoo, and one in Bad Wolf, one of them a stimulant, the other a substance that increases cortisol.

Why do you think he'd want to put in something that increases cortisol. Fron my admittedly linited research isn't cortisol something that goes along with overwork and anxiety?

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I've got Voodoo and Overdose. I will likely combine them soon. Anyone run that combo yet?

(08-21-2015 5:12 PM)dorfmeister Wrote:  Why do you think he'd want to put in something that increases cortisol. Fron my admittedly linited research isn't cortisol something that goes along with overwork and anxiety?

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I've got Voodoo and Overdose. I will likely combine them soon. Anyone run that combo yet?

There are natural levels of cortisol that are healthy and needed. It's when you have too much or too little that it affects your health negatively. Which makes me not want to have it affected by a product I use every day.

Increaeing cortisol levels is actually the way to get them fidgety and more prone to have sex which relieves stress and reduces cortisol levels very quickly. Now, for this to work as well is the congruency of the person wearing whatever mix gives off this masculin signature that increases cortisol levels. On the one hand, if they are familiar with you and comfortable with harboring any notions to sleep with you, the increased cortisol levels may help to make them accept such notions they may have, but may also have the negative impact where increased cortisol levels may get them grouchy and more prone to get annoyed.

(08-21-2015 4:17 PM)Mr. E Wrote:  This is a bit of a concern to me. Too much cortisol is very unhealthy. Did you hear from Garry himself that those herbs are being used? And which product contains the substance that increases cortisol?

No, I did not hear from Garry that any specific herbs are being used, but he is known for taking herbs, vines and other plants in South America and using them in his mixes. Since VD and BW were some of his only major releases during that time, and he did mention at some point in his newsletter that he ran down to SA to pick some herbs he needed in order to restock VD, what else could it be?

That product would be Voodoo, but there's a strong likelihood only certain people (those who get depression from VD) will be affected in this way. I know what a cortisol increase feels like since I'm familiar with this effect in other molecules (Androstadienone and Pregnenolone). That specific type of headache is something I get only when cortisol is being increased. If you don't get any type of stress response or depression, you should be fine. If your cortisol were to increase by some significant amount, enough to affect your health, you'd feel it.

(08-27-2015 5:03 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  No, I did not hear from Garry that any specific herbs are being used, but he is known for taking herbs, vines and other plants in South America and using them in his mixes. Since VD and BW were some of his only major releases during that time, and he did mention at some point in his newsletter that he ran down to SA to pick some herbs he needed in order to restock VD, what else could it be?

That product would be Voodoo, but there's a strong likelihood only certain people (those who get depression from VD) will be affected in this way. I know what a cortisol increase feels like since I'm familiar with this effect in other molecules (Androstadienone and Pregnenolone). That specific type of headache is something I get only when cortisol is being increased. If you don't get any type of stress response or depression, you should be fine. If your cortisol were to increase by some significant amount, enough to affect your health, you'd feel it.

That makes sense. I'm currently wearing VD and have used it daily in the past weeks and I've never felt bad on it. In fact, it makes me feel good. Carefree. Relaxed.

And it's true what you say. I've had tremendous stress in the past and my cortisol levels must have been very high. And yes, you feel it. Long periods of heavy stress make you feel physically ill. VD does the opposite.

I said it in another thread, but it's worth saying again: have you ever considered starting your own company? I'm serious. You are an expert already. If you can team up with people who can do the chemistry part and whatever else is needed that falls outside your expertise, that expertise can be made real. And I know you'd come out with killer products!

(08-28-2015 5:29 AM)Mr. E Wrote:  I said it in another thread, but it's worth saying again: have you ever considered starting your own company? I'm serious. You are an expert already. If you can team up with people who can do the chemistry part and whatever else is needed that falls outside your expertise, that expertise can be made real. And I know you'd come out with killer products!

I'm attempting to work with Mike @ Apex (thundr) in the future, but nothing is official at this point. I'm also unofficially working with Chris @ Alpha Dream on some level, but you could say this is more of a mediator role.