(06-15-2011 1:31 PM)Old Dog Wrote:  Thank you very much!!!

I'm a bit rusty, but it's coming back to me... Excuse my ignorant questions. I sound like a noob again!

What would you recommend in strength and "dosage" from the THDOC? I see the 5mg/5ml. Should I dilute this, cut it, mix it? Any tips and tricks? I'm used to the old 10-30mcg dose from AD.

Thank you again, so much!!

The Alpha Dream concentrates come in 1mg/mL strength, which amounts to approximately 50mcg per drop (depending on viscosity. may be closer to 40 now that he's selling them without DPG added, if I understand correctly).

So to make a sprayer, you'll need a little spray bottle (used ADR to-go bottles work well, as do mini sprayer bottles from the travel section of the container store or a perfuming supplier like New Directions Aromatics.)

Then you'll need to know how many sprays will be produced by a single fill-up of your spray bottle. You can test this by just filling it up with water a couple times and counting. The ADR to-go bottles produce 40 sprays, which means that every 50mcg drop will add 1.25mcg of product to your spray.

So for a 10mcg spray you'd add 8 drops into the sprayer, and fill the rest up with alcohol (everclear works perfect) and any fixative you want to use, such as DPG or fractionated coconut oil, and, if you like, a drop or two of fragrance. You can also just fill the rest of the sprayer up with cologne if you like, but then multiple sprays will become problematic.

Hey Old Dog, welcome to PheroTruth!

I don't know how I missed this thread when you first posted.

Yes, pherotalk became a much different place after you left. That was pretty much the beginning of the end of their reign, and members started leaving in droves. In fact, Jasmine called me and spent 3 hours talking my ear off about the issue that caused you to leave and about CPS trying to take her kids away. The only problem was that what she was telling me made no sense, and I knew it couldn't be true. I left and started this forum not much after that, in August of 09.

As to why they've become so militant, I think the answer is that before copulingate ( yes, that's become what we refer to it as ) people rarely questioned anything they said or did, but after it was exposed that they'd been lying to everyone, they lost that luxury.

Not much before copulingate, members also started realizing that they did infact censor posts and called them on it. In defense, they removed the non censored tagline from the forum and changed it to read "This is the only website in the world where you are allowed to honestly discuss human pheromones and related topics with real pheromone users. No "snake oil salesmen" allowed!"

Around the same time, people started waking up and coming to the conclusion that Jasmine and Michael may not be the loving, caring people that they claimed to be. Many also started noticing that the claim of being a research forum and not profiting or actually losing money on the sales of the experimentals and putatives probably wasn't true either. After all, why didn't anything ever move up the chain from an experimental mix to a pre-release, then to a consumer item?

I also started noticing, and assume others did as well, that anytime a sticky issue came up on the forum or they were confronted on something they didn't want to address, Jasmine or Michael would post a thread announcing some new personal tragedy in their life. Those 2 have to be either the 2 least lucky people in the world, or make up lies to misdirect people away from issues they don't want to address and gain sympathy.

And that happens tp this day! Even now there's a recent thread over there were a couple of our members called them out on a few issues and ther response has been to claim that they've been threatened, attacked and fear the safety of their chemist. In the process they also told a number of flat out lies! Of course they do have a few fan boys that jumped to their defense and proved that their still capable of making some prople drink their coolaid.

Then there was the issue with Diane. Since they could no longer get copulins from Stone Labs they were going to work with Diane to help her synthesize and produce a viable alternative source. But, things went sideways with her too and they ended up banning her.

To be fair on that account though, she was also a member here for a short time, and we ended up banning her too, because she wouldn't stop attacking Tisha or Androtics, and was pretty much using the forum as her own personal advertising platform for Paradise 7. BTW, we actually supported her in starting her company and allowed her to sell her first products through this forum.

So, that's basically waht happened with the other PT. It's of no concern anymore to most of us here, and we've created a cozy little retreat away from all the smoke and mirrors. And, as you peruse through threads I think you'll find that our members are far more intelligent, scientific, and explorative than the average member over there, and rival the brightest they ever did have.

I'll respond to the PM you sent me too, and share some other information too.

Wow... I don't quite know what else to say.

The whole thing is just sad.

Thanks for the info on Dianne. I used to be close to her back in the old days, but then copulingate happened and we ended up on opposite sides of the issue. I left, lost track of her, and then when I came back, saw that she was banned from there and here. I was mighty confused! Then, I found your thread addressing past issues with her in the Paradise 7 forum. Sounds like a big mess. I'm sorry for all of that. At the very least, I hope she is happy. She always enjoyed the experimenting.


Thanks again for this forum. You were such a personality and a powerhouse from back then. It's really good to see this evolution, and to find the good ole' people again. I look forward to chatting with you again.

(06-18-2011 12:14 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Hey Old Dog, welcome to PheroTruth!

I don't know how I missed this thread when you first posted.

Yes, pherotalk became a much different place after you left. That was pretty much the beginning of the end of their reign, and members started leaving in droves. In fact, Jasmine called me and spent 3 hours talking my ear off about the issue that caused you to leave and about CPS trying to take her kids away. The only problem was that what she was telling me made no sense, and I knew it couldn't be true. I left and started this forum not much after that, in August of 09.

As to why they've become so militant, I think the answer is that before copulingate ( yes, that's become what we refer to it as ) people rarely questioned anything they said or did, but after it was exposed that they'd been lying to everyone, they lost that luxury.

Not much before copulingate, members also started realizing that they did infact censor posts and called them on it. In defense, they removed the non censored tagline from the forum and changed it to read "This is the only website in the world where you are allowed to honestly discuss human pheromones and related topics with real pheromone users. No "snake oil salesmen" allowed!"

Around the same time, people started waking up and coming to the conclusion that Jasmine and Michael may not be the loving, caring people that they claimed to be. Many also started noticing that the claim of being a research forum and not profiting or actually losing money on the sales of the experimentals and putatives probably wasn't true either. After all, why didn't anything ever move up the chain from an experimental mix to a pre-release, then to a consumer item?

I also started noticing, and assume others did as well, that anytime a sticky issue came up on the forum or they were confronted on something they didn't want to address, Jasmine or Michael would post a thread announcing some new personal tragedy in their life. Those 2 have to be either the 2 least lucky people in the world, or make up lies to misdirect people away from issues they don't want to address and gain sympathy.

And that happens tp this day! Even now there's a recent thread over there were a couple of our members called them out on a few issues and ther response has been to claim that they've been threatened, attacked and fear the safety of their chemist. In the process they also told a number of flat out lies! Of course they do have a few fan boys that jumped to their defense and proved that their still capable of making some prople drink their coolaid.

Then there was the issue with Diane. Since they could no longer get copulins from Stone Labs they were going to work with Diane to help her synthesize and produce a viable alternative source. But, things went sideways with her too and they ended up banning her.

To be fair on that account though, she was also a member here for a short time, and we ended up banning her too, because she wouldn't stop attacking Tisha or Androtics, and was pretty much using the forum as her own personal advertising platform for Paradise 7. BTW, we actually supported her in starting her company and allowed her to sell her first products through this forum.

So, that's basically waht happened with the other PT. It's of no concern anymore to most of us here, and we've created a cozy little retreat away from all the smoke and mirrors. And, as you peruse through threads I think you'll find that our members are far more intelligent, scientific, and explorative than the average member over there, and rival the brightest they ever did have.

I'll respond to the PM you sent me too, and share some other information too.

Bosshank and Diamond are both members here, but haven't been active in forever.

As to Diane, I liked her as well, and it wasn't my decision or me that banned her. That was all Bella and Tish'a doing. But, after we did ban her I was the one that got blamed and she started making wild accusations about me, and this forum.

So, there's no love loss between her and I, and even though we don't like each other, in the spirit of what PheroTruth is, we still have a Product Review forum for her and a link to her store, and she's had more people click through to her site than anmy other vendor has.

Ahhhh. I didn't know Bella and Tisha were also official here. I have fond memories of both. Tisha was a great help to me once. I've never forgotten.

Again, sorry for the mess.

(06-18-2011 3:00 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  Bosshank and Diamond are both members here, but haven't been active in forever.

As to Diane, I liked her as well, and it wasn't my decision or me that banned her. That was all Bella and Tish'a doing. But, after we did ban her I was the one that got blamed and she started making wild accusations about me, and this forum.

So, there's no love loss between her and I, and even though we don't like each other, in the spirit of what PheroTruth is, we still have a Product Review forum for her and a link to her store, and she's had more people click through to her site than anmy other vendor has.

Hmmm....

I've missed something else.

What happened with Bella? Last I knew, she was on the good side.

Crap, I've missed so much!!!

(06-18-2011 3:22 PM)Old Dog Wrote:  Hmmm....

I've missed something else.

What happened with Bella? Last I knew, she was on the good side.

Crap, I've missed so much!!!

Hello Old Dog. I hope all is well. Hmmm....I wonder......Is it really you? It would be great if it was. You were one of my favorites!

As to your question, here is what was released:

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-An-Unfortun...nouncement

Welcome back!

Hi, Old Dog & welcome to PheroTruth (sorry I'm late).
I don't know much about the AD drama (not something I was involved with), but I can tell you what pheromone products I use & I've tried: http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Beccah-s-Ph...ts?page=10 (it's the 4th post down)
Just let me know if I can be of any help