This question came to me today because I started a an online conversation with a girl that I have known for a few years. I have always liked her but she was seeing someone. She is sort of a wild girl who I have never seriously pursued.

That got me to thinking about "loose women" and pheromones. One would think that any Androstenone based formula should be good but is this really the case?

It seems like Asian women like arone based products much more than Androstenone based products. Is that cultural? Genetic? Many members have observed that Black and Latina women are partial to high Androstenone products. Is that cultural? Genetic?

It seems to me like women who are "easy" are wired differently from other women. Most of the time normal women put up safeguards. They put up walls and defenses. Easy women don't have the same levels of defense.

What works best for sluts? Would something like New Pheromone Additive work better or would it backfire. If New Pheromone Additive makes you seem to be overly producing Androstenone does that turn off the slut?

Is there a general consensus of what works with "easy" women (i.e. Socials, Alphas or sexuals)?

All girls are sluts. A friend who's a famous entertainment attorney now said in high school.... "A girl is just a pussy with a life support"

Even if a girl is "LOOSE" or open to casual sex, I have found that the same pheromones apply to them as based on their hormone levels and personal preference.

I have not seen sluts prefer Androstenone or Androstanone any more. I guess the pheromones just switch something on and off in their minds. So I wouldn't Androstenone bomb an Asian or white slut. Feel free to bomb the fck out of Latin and Black chicks with higher estrogen levels..... They'll thank you for it...

(02-15-2018 10:19 AM)xtraspecial Wrote:  All girls are sluts. A friend who's a famous entertainment attorney now said in high school.... "A girl is just a pussy with a life support"

A bit broad....but I get what you are saying. I think a saying that would be closer to the truth is: "Every girl is a nut. Some are just harder to crack"

But yeah I get the mindset that you have.

(02-15-2018 10:19 AM)xtraspecial Wrote:  I guess the pheromones just switch something on and off in their minds.

I was thinking along this line. I was thinking that something like M3X may not work on a loose girl because she is already internally disinhibited. The switch is already off so maybe M3X does nothing for this type of girl.

To sum up Xtraspecial, you are saying that everything works the way it has been observed on all women no matter what their moral or ethical or mental bearing is.

(02-15-2018 9:47 AM)Paradox Wrote:  It seems to me like women who are "easy" are wired differently from other women. Most of the time normal women put up safeguards. They put up walls and defenses. Easy women don't have the same levels of defense.

What works best for sluts? Would something like New Pheromone Additive work better or would it backfire. If New Pheromone Additive makes you seem to be overly producing Androstenone does that turn off the slut?

Is there a general consensus of what works with "easy" women (i.e. Socials, Alphas or sexuals)?

Women with poor boundaries usually respond to aggressive mixes like:

SOB
AV
BW
LIIK or AM (but you can easily blow out girls who are have low self-confidence)
Kane
DM (or any cops)
Ascend (but I haven't used this very much, so I can't be sure)
IJ

It sounds like a cliche, but acting like an asshole really is the most effective way to close these type of women; you just have to directly deal with the context, which can make the logistics difficult to handle. Best approach is an all-or-nothing, so you're willing to risk losing her to close. The overt risk will prime the mix by signaling higher-value........the "I don't really need you, but if you want to come along" type signature.

Having said that, you have to sleep with one eye open in these situations, and eventually your luck will run out as most of these women are opportunists, so buyer beware.

(02-15-2018 10:33 AM)Paradox Wrote:  A bit broad....but I get what you are saying. I think a saying that would be closer to the truth is: "Every girl is a nut. Some are just harder to crack"

But yeah I get the mindset that you have.

(02-15-2018 10:19 AM)xtraspecial Wrote:  I guess the pheromones just switch something on and off in their minds.

I was thinking along this line. I was thinking that something like M3X may not work on a loose girl because she is already internally disinhibited. The switch is already off so maybe M3X does nothing for this type of girl.

To sum up Xtraspecial, you are saying that everything works the way it has been observed on all women no matter what their moral or ethical or mental bearing is.

All women are horny, and most that have experienced good sex LOVE SEX. This is what I mean about girl sluts

Yes, the same pheromones work on girls, regardless of if they're open to sex or not.
ALL will love the Androstenone/Androstanone rush though..... but just be careful because even if the girl is loose, she can still OD. Her mind's limits do not change just because she likes sex.

(02-15-2018 10:33 AM)theLaw Wrote:  Best approach is an all-or-nothing, so you're willing to risk losing her to close. The overt risk will prime the mix by signaling higher-value........the "I don't really need you, but if you want to come along" type signature.

Yeah you are right I was trying to avoid this approach. It's easy to perform but if it backfires there goes everything.

(02-15-2018 10:33 AM)theLaw Wrote:  Having said that, you have to sleep with one eye open in these situations, and eventually your luck will run out as most of these women are opportunists, so buyer beware.

And yes, you are right again. I should be trying to avoid this senario:

I guess we can generally regard that there are three classes of sluts; firstly, those who are fully unattached, have no strings, and are comfortable with the entire world knowing that they are sluts.

Secondly, married (or in Long Term Relationship) women, women connected to you via her work or circle of friends, etc. This 2nd class generally need some kind of comfort; they are just as slutty (or even more) than the first type, but will almost always reject a man unless they believe that he can be trusted to not kiss and tell.

The 3rd type have experienced some type of abuse or trauma. I could not advise about this type because I avoid them at all cost.

(02-15-2018 10:51 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Yeah you are right I was trying to avoid this approach. It's easy to perform but if it backfires there goes everything.

Well, there's another way to approach using those mixes, but it does require a bit more effort.

If you approach a woman using ultra-confidence combined with your own specific set of boundaries, then you can still achieve the desired result.

The main problem with this method is context. If you simply look at where the most young attractive women are congregating, they are not places full of emotionally-mature males, so you're basically playing another man's game. But then again, you're not looking for a mature relationship in these locations, but just something casual, so the risk vs reward might be worth it.

Bottom line: If you look around........and all you see are animals........you're in the jungle........so act accordingly.

When I enter a new location, I always ask myself "is this for women or girls".

PS: I you really want to save yourself some grief, then just go lease a BMW I8 (cheapest eye-catching sports car at only $140,000), and drive around offering girls a ride. It sounds ridiculous, but it might actually be the most effective and efficient way to get laid in history (fortune favors the bold) sans mones.

(02-15-2018 12:57 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Bottom line: If you look around........and all you see are animals........you're in the jungle........so act accordingly.

Fantastic reply...as usual. I'm stealing your line (see above). Rep+

(02-15-2018 12:57 PM)theLaw Wrote:  PS: I you really want to save yourself some grief, then just go lease a BMW I8 (cheapest eye-catching sports car at only $140,000), and drive around offering girls a ride. It sounds ridiculous, but it might actually be the most effective and efficient way to get laid in history (fortune favors the bold) sans mones.

I'm a car guy, and usually have some sexy cars. They're race cars for me, so I don't really care about how it looks. I barely wash them. I have cars and motorcycles. (Which girls actually love much MUCH more than cars)

Girls don't care about your car at ALL. It just means that you have money, and can treat them like a princess, and you can be their ATM. Of course, a guy does seem like a cool guy/Alpha in a nice sports car.... but that's about it. NO girl would sleep with a guy just for his car... (His money, YES.... but regardless of the car) I actually have picked up more girls with regular type cars, than my flashy sports cars. Frankly I actually hate the attraction of my sports cars now......