Fish, how do you know if its rev29 if it doesn't say on the bottom? It is likely to be somewhere around there though.

I've got BlissXS on the way right now -- hopefully this jives with a314 to make it more upbeat and charismatic. but I'll still be testing a few putatives in case.

I meant my other bottle , made at the earlier date I noted, does say rev 29 at the bottom.

My 2nd, where I typed the text as it reads has no rev number . I am awaiting delivery of the latest rev 32 and will compare to my unknown.

Cool. I asked John on the androtics forum and he claims they haven't changed anything "as far as he knows".

Tested out A314 for the first time yesterday and came away disappointed.
Though I need to test a lot more before I call it a failure (for me). I have rev 31, it smells like sandalwood which I actually find fairly pleasant.

Applied 5 drops to the throat and jawline. Didn't feel much for the first 15 to 20 mins but then this stuff hit me, hard. I felt stoned, similar to the way I felt when I first tried AV. A weird feeling, detached from reality is the best way I can describe it. Lasted a good few hours.

BTW, I often test at grocery stores with regards to my daytime shenanigans, bars and occasionally clubs for my nighttime escapades, this time it was the former. As mentioned in another thread, I did get quite a few stares, from females (Asian, Caucasian) mostly, but from a few dudes too. My perception was a bit skewed at the time, they could have been attraction hits, I can't say for sure. Reflecting back on it, they seemed almost quizzical. Its hard to explain in words.

One thing I am quite certain about is that they were not respect or intimidation hits. Case in point, I was merrily going my way when this male employee walks literally almost straight into me, we both stopped jussst before making contact and stood still for about 5 to 10 seconds, it was surreal. I made up my mind not move because it was he who walked into my path, clearly. Finally, I blurted out "what are you doing?", he then moved aside and we resumed walking- weird shit.

Then, while in the check-out line, this granny behind me tries to redirect me to the express line (I had only a few items), then the cashier woman does the same. I moved because she was old and I did not want to look like a jerk. But I was like, what the fuck, why are these people trying to tell me what to do?? So now I am in the famous express line and the guy ahead of me (caucasian, mid 30's) is giving me these weird looks, the kind of look a person has when they are trying to figure something out, he looked perplexed, thats the best way I can put it. It culminated in something of a smirk perhaps, I can't really say. Or perhaps he is one of the few who can smell mones and doesn't much care for the odor? I was using adequate but not overpowering cover, so who knows. I normally never get reactions like this. I leave people alone and they leave me alone.

I had a similar experience when I used too much AV, so maybe next time I'll lower the dose of A314 to 2 drops. I am very sensitive to none, meaning I OD very fast, so perhaps a lower dose will do the trick. I believe A314 does contain none.

MX297 reminds me of A314 a little bit, but without the drawbacks, I think Kimba states the same in another thread I just read- yeah, my memory sucks sometimes. Though unlike the morning after I wore MX297, I woke up this morning feeling pretty good.

What I need to do after I test a lower dose A314 is to try out C4 again, I have only tried it once but I did get a very noticeable respect hit from it.
So in the 1st inning it is C4 which has the lead. (I didn't get anything out of X22 though).

Well, this is my quite limited experience with the previouly much vaunted, though not anymore, A314.

Haha SS108, 5 drops doesn't sound like a good idea no matter how you put it. Even 4 drops makes me seem arrogant and asshole like... my jokes/teasing get taken way too seriously... anyway, how is your current testing with 2 drops?

A314 is a status product, it is very high status, as in boss-man type. Your jokes and personality will be taken seriously. You need to keep that in mind. If you want a lighter product I would try out Wolf, it is more charismatic. But A314 is very 'yes sir' no matter which revision I get.

Indeed Wolf is friendlier but at the cost of looking beta, Wolf has no status power imo and should not be sell like it, this product is just the ultimate good guy that look cool. But it won't cut it at all against top of the foodchains people.

Btw, been trying a314 + p75(2.5mcg) last couple of days with good succes, while it's not quite still the old a314, the status is there, it just lack the social part when people really admire you, think Connections and maybe some TAA could round it nicely...Anyhow, that says a lot about how this new a314 is missing key ingredients...

(03-25-2013 1:31 AM)KIMBA Wrote:  A314 is a status product, it is very high status, as in boss-man type. Your jokes and personality will be taken seriously. You need to keep that in mind. If you want a lighter product I would try out Wolf, it is more charismatic. But A314 is very 'yes sir' no matter which revision I get.

I agree Lebron, Wolf is Charisma IME. C4, Alpha 7, A314 and Ascend is the best Alpha products. The problem is you cant castrate them, they are status no matter what you add.

P75 would add some attraction and social aspect to A314. That is what the old A314 had for me and the new doesnt. Old A314 was more sexy for women, now it is serious without that depth.

I'm really intrigue by C4, can you compare it to a314, in term of status,attraction, respect?

Concerning Ascend, like I said in a previous tread, I really dislike the product, for me it didnt achieve anything of what it was suppose to do: no status and no attraction, or should I temper by saying very little of both. Add to that the discusting smell too.

From my observations, big dose of none and Androsterone dont work well at all together, you got to spike a predominant mix with one or another.

My most succesful mix by far is 4-5 drops a314 and 1 small drop AV, if i go beyond that with Av the mix go south...

Its funny you say that Kimba, considering P75 is out of stock... thankfully were pretty sure that its androstAnone so we can add that in. So P74+p75 can make it a little more social/sexual... the connectionXS suggestion by Lebron seems like a good idea... I ordered that too and will probably have it by tomorrow.