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View Profile · 02-08-2013 11:29 AM

I am very interested in the self effects of some mones and I was wondering what is the best pheromone with the I DONT GIVE A SHIT self aleffects. I am trying to go in school and not give a flying shit about what I'm doing. you see I am very shy and a little insecure. I think by being in the not give a shit attitude I might be able to open better.

View Profile · 02-08-2013 1:38 PM

This post has a lit of idgaf suggestions.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Any-product...p-break-up

A heavy none mix can do the same as well but there coud be adverse reactions.

Achieve success in other areas of your life and that can carry over.

View Profile · 02-08-2013 1:40 PM

Hmmm. I think you might be approaching your problem from the wrong direction. An aggressive self effect might not be what you're looking for.

AM from alpha dream has a very aggressive badass self effect. You'll find your driving more aggressively, speaking more aggressively, etc.

Wolf doesn't give a IDGAF attitude, it's more of an uplifting happiness and confidence. But wolf is what I would suggest for you. Golden self effects. I think its happy upbeat confidence vibe would help you out.

I would also consider L2Kv1. It's self effect is a cool calm unperturbed james bond. Nothing phases you, it's all good. And self effects aside - it's effects on others are amazing.

Or just straight up Glace. Fear be gone! Anxiety be gone! Glace will give you the IDGAF attitude, but in a more playful mischievous way (rather than in an aggressive way)

So. . . If approach anxiety is getting you down, Glace or Wolf would be great choices. Either one will make you want to start conversations, and will eliminate negative self-talk/approach anxiety.

Hope it helps. I would suggest reading some journals, and some reports in the men's section.

Ra

View Profile · 02-08-2013 1:54 PM

thank you both for the answers I might have been a little mad (at myself) so my post was a bit aggressive and brash I am gonna look into both wolf and l2kv1

View Profile · 02-08-2013 2:54 PM

(02-08-2013 11:29 AM)ohmalurd Wrote: I am very interested in the self effects of some mones and I was wondering what is the best pheromone with the I DONT GIVE A SHIT self aleffects. I am trying to go in school and not give a flying shit about what I'm doing. you see I am very shy and a little insecure. I think by being in the not give a shit attitude I might be able to open better.

To be perfectly honest pheromones are not the answer to what you are looking for.

Begin the confidence from within and do not rely on exterior assistance for something that has to come from within first.

Get in the gym, get a hobby you enjoy, read some consciousness expanding material. Applying something to the outward self that should be coming from inside is just wearing a mask.

View Profile · 02-08-2013 4:43 PM

I was very naive in thinking pheromones where gonna help me be more social without trying to socialize more than I am now.

View Profile · 02-08-2013 5:26 PM

(02-08-2013 4:43 PM)ohmalurd Wrote: I was very naive in thinking pheromones where gonna help me be more social without trying to socialize more than I am now.

Pheromones open doors. You still have to walk through them.

View Profile · 02-09-2013 8:31 AM

A314. will give the effect you are looking for.. but it is better the give a shit. it is called compassion...

View Profile · 02-09-2013 5:51 PM

(02-08-2013 4:43 PM)ohmalurd Wrote: I was very naive in thinking pheromones where gonna help me be more social without trying to socialize more than I am now.

i think you should get something with Oxytocin in it ..

first it will give you pretty nice self effects ..

next it will make peeps like you and most products out there are good socials

HAX has a new product but i have not tryed it yet ... considering the promo they are running and the quality of all their other products ... looks interesting

Pure Mones has a nice Trust product with Oxy in it but it´s very much on the comfort site .. small bottle and a good buy for the size

Liquid Trust is good but very expensive at Love Scent .. you would have to get it directly at Vero Labs site but it will still be expensive unless you buy a half year or year supply ..

True Pheromones has True Trust what is enhanced with a lot of nols and makes a really good Icebreaker ...

get you some of the stuff ... think this will help you most in your situtation ..

Pago

View Profile · 02-09-2013 9:34 PM

(02-08-2013 4:43 PM)ohmalurd Wrote: I was very naive in thinking pheromones where gonna help me be more social without trying to socialize more than I am now.

In all honesty, you will get the desired effect you want from pheromones the first few times. I certainly got more confidence and was way more social.

But after awhile of using them, the effects died down.

I discovered that the effects wear down once your brain becomes used to it. Our bodies have a clever way of penalizing us for stuff like that.

It will open that door for you initially but close it soon after. You have to build that self confidence first to keep that door open.

The best mone effects i've had were during times i was working out and being healthy. They amplified the i'm feeling good effects 50 fold.

Good luck brother!

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