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Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - MMM - 06-21-2016 10:26 PM Is it just my crazy thinking, or has all the old posters been outdated by all the NEW MONE EXPERTS?
RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Ekscentra - 06-21-2016 10:33 PM That's about how things have been trending for the padt year, if not longer. Some of the new "experts" have been bringing something valuable to the table recently rather than regurgitating others' reports. I like the direction things are going, though I wish some of the other veterans would bother posting more often. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - jb20 - 06-22-2016 1:01 AM They are probably too lazy to post.Saw couple of them online and checking threads. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Alphonse - 06-22-2016 2:16 AM I think many longterm users have found what works and stick to the same products. You can only fall for the hype around new products before you become disillusioned and realise things don't really improve, they simply change. Rather like a funky suit, sometimes the new product is interesting enough to test a few times, but you'll still go back to rocking the old 2-button navy suit most days. Plus there's only so many times you can read the same threads ("how can I get my girlfriend back?" or "tell me what x product does? What about Y? What about Z? What will happen if I combine X, Y and Z?") before you throw your hands in the air and say fuck it. A. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Ekscentra - 06-22-2016 5:30 AM It's funny that after over a decade, we still look back to many mixes at least that old as the best examples in their class. Old A314, MAG, New Pheromone Additive, Pantyscorcher, MX292, MX297...hell, even Scent of Eros still holds its own today. Mixologists have a severely limited palette to work with. It's often hard to believe how far ahead Androtics was at the time. Discoveries I believed less than a few months ago to be absolutely groundbreaking had already been undertaken by Androtics in the early days. If things are to move forward, the putatives must become known and, more importantly, formulators will need to learn how best to put them to use. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Jimmycrack - 06-22-2016 8:41 AM Do you mean names like dBot Tacitus Pagodeiro Dexter Thundr etc.... I suspect some of these guys had more spare time in college/graduate work or whatever stage they were at in life and could spare more posting time. Others probably have their own private forum. Some likely mastered what they needed and check in now and then... others went on to create their own mixes. Some around probably only stimulated when interesting discoveries or questions come up. Maybe more than a few have secret formulas they keep to themselves realizing that even minor gains in human influence can have major career implications in certain fields. I still think the majority of the population considers this hokum pursued by folks looking for a magic pill to make up for social deficiencies. But imagine if the auto manufacturers, stores, cosmetic industry, medical and teaching professions not to mention politicians and entertainment industry started using these things at scale? Years ago, my girl and I were clearing out her Dad's place and found some prohormone cream. I laughed and said "what is this bunk". For the hell of it, I smeared some on my thighs. Next thing I know I was rock hard and super charged. WTF? Totally wrote it off as industry hype and so did many other folks. Then a few years later the stuff gets banned? Why? Because it worked but a few folks over used it (aka teenagers) idiots looking for a magic pill. I imagine that if I was pretty sophisticated in these arts, I might reach a point where I would want to trade information only with well qualified researchers lest the newbs get a hold of tidbits and go overboard or every dbag tries to start their own mone house.... After awhile the same themes come up over and over again: how can I get laid, how can I master fallout, how can I seduce a lesbian, how can win friends and influence people, land a job.... And the same reports from fanboys: I work X and you should have seen the looks... shit people were fawning over me... OMG animals and kids love me now. Not to mention the variation in reporting - folks claiming to "get hits" because the woman at the coffee shop twirls her hair while she is having a ditz moment.... I could see how that would all get boring after awhile if you had moved in the role of serious research.... RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Yahachu - 06-22-2016 9:23 AM (06-22-2016 8:41 AM)Jimmycrack Wrote: Do you mean names like dBot Tacitus Pagodeiro Dexter Thundr etc.... Sounds about right. Most people are not observant. They don't know how to analyze changes in baseline behavior. Good reports are sporadic and all over the place. I have been doing experiments with mones for years, though I didn't want to join a forum like this because it seemed so juvenile. No direction. No sense of purpose. It was only recently after talking with Garry and Ekscentra that I became invested here. MMM may feel upset or disappointed that many of the greats are not as active as they used to be. He like many others is understandably frustrated at new posters regurgitating hearsay and advocating mixes on at best tenuous anecdotal evidence. Anecdotes can have significance in the context of a large sample size and careful attention to changes from past baseline behavior, but anecdotes are useless when sourced from the mind of an adolescent who isn't observant even if he's looking. He sees, but he does not note. He watches, but on the rare instance that he does observe changes, they are not objective observations. He sees what he wants to see. He lets confirmation bias control him. He lets his desires overtake his rational mind. But allowing yourself to become cynical and jaded because of change in a different direction, or stagnation in others, is a very easy way to ensure that there is no improvement. Do you want real experimentation done? Do you want to see the future of pheromones come about? Then do it yourself. Encourage those who are going down that path to continue. Assist them. Instead of pushing "newbs" away, tell them why their methodologies are flawed. Maybe you do this 2000 times and it's futile, but maybe that 2001 case is the person who designs the perfect fallout mix because he changed his way of thinking after you helped him. I very well may have left if my initial reports were met with "you don't have enough posts to be credible, get out of here." Yet that didn't happen. And now my large scale experiments on groundbreaking mixes in the future will be posted here to further the community. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Jimmycrack - 06-22-2016 9:53 AM Well said. Basically Eks, Paradox, you, a few others were refreshing and encouraging. Taken at face value the post was either an outright troll or a legitimate request for some of the long-time, high quality posters to pipe up.... or a veiled complaint that the quality and detail of posts was going down or getting repetitive. I take it as a territory troll. Some post triggered some knee jerk reaction and of course I am notwfeeding the troll. You have to take the good with the bad in a public forum IMHO. It will evolve, crowds will change. Hopefully it never strays too far from what made it great. This forum seemed the least brand-biased to me but others have said it has its favorites. Seems like a great TROLL thread: 'REAL' posters vs what? Inexperienced? Fakes? Shills? Perhaps the seemingly scientific nature of a post vs an anecdote? I'm sure there are plenty of folks who have been testing over the last 2 decades who never post. I know I must have observed around 2000-3000 pherocloud reactions to myself under various mones over a 15 year period. But I am sure folks who say slather the stuff on everyday and work at the Mall of America get a lot more exposures.... are they more or less real? Is a fleeting reaction at a fast food place more or less real than a 8 hour exposure in an office setting or a 1 hour exposure in a meeting? RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Alphonse - 06-22-2016 10:11 AM (06-22-2016 5:30 AM)Ekscentra Wrote: It's funny that after over a decade, we still look back to many mixes at least that old as the best examples in their class. Old A314, MAG, New Pheromone Additive, Pantyscorcher, MX292, MX297...hell, even Scent of Eros still holds its own today. Mixologists have a severely limited palette to work with. It's often hard to believe how far ahead Androtics was at the time. Discoveries I believed less than a few months ago to be absolutely groundbreaking had already been undertaken by Androtics in the early days. If things are to move forward, the putatives must become known and, more importantly, formulators will need to learn how best to put them to use. Funny, I think exactly the opposite. The only people who benefit for the search for that One Magical Molecule that will make all the difference are the vendors. The fact of the matter is that A314 was better when it didn't have 539 magical putatives created in a secret monastery in the Himalayas by blind Tibetan monks. Sure, some of the putatives are interesting, but they did not make a huge difference in the greater scheme of things. None of them are the groundbreaking breakthrough that people were led to believe that they were. I have used many of them, and the majority of them ended up in the bin. Even the more successful ones such as P74, P75, P83, P86 and P96 I can do without and most can be easily replaced. When there few molecules and only several products, people used them with success. People realised that they added a small factor to normal interactions and used them as tools to improve their careers, sales and their romantic lives. Those people who could not make them work were the desperate and gullible who swiftly gave up when they realised that they were not magical wands that would instantly transform them into millionaire sex gods with harems of women hanging on their every word. These days I see more and more of the types of people who will not benefit from mones without significant personal change constantly on the hunt for more pheromones, more combinations, the secret ratio of 7 different products from 7 different vendors that will get them laid, that One Magical Molecule that will guarantee them that thing that they so desperately crave. Well sorry, but it doesn't exist, and it will never exist. But for £69.99 I can sell you this amazing putative I've discovered that will definitely* get you laid. A. * by definitely I mean maybe. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Ekscentra - 06-22-2016 1:59 PM Vendors often add molecules for the sake of it these days, this is true. A314 is an extremely delicate mix that requires highly specific amounts of each molecule in order to work properly. The more complex it became, the less enthusiastic the reports. An expanded pallette must always bring with it the understanding of what each molecule brings to the mix, how it interacts with other molecules, etc. - Androtics gradually lost their finesse, deluding themselves into believing A314 needed additional components still. They never paid attention to their fanbase and the results were highly predictable. They brought a lot to the table in the early days, but in the end, they earned their downfall. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - RussianWolf - 06-22-2016 4:07 PM The last thing I would call MMM, is a troll. A respected member just asking a simple question. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - MMM - 06-22-2016 4:23 PM (06-22-2016 4:07 PM)RussianWolf Wrote: The last thing I would call MMM, is a troll. A respected member just asking a simple question. Somebody call me a troll!?!? Bitchabooty! Nawh, just kidding. I don't mind. Troll crossed my mind as well. And is the reason I asked the question![]() I guess every forum will have that ONE GUY or TWO, who knows all the answers and answers all the questions. And NO, I'm not upset or angry. Just wondering where the OTHER knowledgeable moners disappeared to, and is it because they're busy with life, or have they been run off by certain people. I do, however, hate knowing there are people born AFTER me who know more! ![]() "Money makes the world go round! Add pussy to that, and you better fasten your seat belt!" --- MMM RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - theLaw - 06-22-2016 4:39 PM (06-22-2016 4:23 PM)MMM Wrote: Somebody call me a troll!?!? Might be interesting to look back and see when senior members started posting less...........perhaps when AD's mixes changed...........or when Androtics altered a large number of their products..........or well after PXS released its first gen of products? Other than Apex and LAL............been mighty quiet over the last few years. (I left PT out of this list as I haven't seen any game-changing mixes from them that can't be found elsewhere...........but solid products nonetheless)
RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Blacky Chan - 06-22-2016 4:55 PM (06-22-2016 2:16 AM)Alphonse Wrote: I think many longterm users have found what works and stick to the same products. This post hits the nail on the head. For me it's m3x, two sprays and out the door. I don't care about Andritics putatives added to a mix or combining 4 products in mega doses.. I really haven't seen any groundbreaking information lately, what i have seen is lots of speculation with out any conclusive testing. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - DarkLord1 - 06-22-2016 7:15 PM I believe that it has been said that at some point: 1. Questions seem to be about the same and then someone says use the search function. 2. Top 5 mixes to attract one eyed milfs that smoke crack while eating waffles start to get old. "Come on guys!" 3. You are at least a 5 time phero ace which means you have tried 25 products or more. 4. Someone has said something to you one too many times and you say "oh well". Hasn't happened to me, but I've seen it. 5. Life event happens. 6. Maybe it's a natural order of things that keeps things fresh. I've learned a great deal from the people on this forum and I would like to think that I've added something to the collective. Always in the shadows....DL1 RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Spars - 06-23-2016 8:46 AM I have grown immensely because of this forum. Life can grab ahold me like the best of them, but the journey always seems well traveled. I often get caught up in the hype and maybe I'm apart of the problem. Not just because I'm pulling the trigger super early on promised solid mixes, but I don't report ALL of my experiences, no matter how negative they may be. Paradox mentioned that I should consider correcting this behavior and instead of just doing hit reports, I should do actual reviews. I'm working on it. I know there has always been a surge of members, whether trolls or people who I've grown to respect due to their reporting and advice. I find this fresh. It seems there's always somebody who just ran out of the late and great A314 but has owned the product forever but just found this forum due to their "well running dry". RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - RTBoss - 06-23-2016 9:02 AM Personally, I haven't had any experiences lately that blow my skirt up. I'm bored. The opportunities I have to test - parties, bars, whatever - just aren't occurring for me. Short of a real panty scorcher hitting the market, meh. I also ran a sub over at IML called Emotional Healing and Pain Relief Aid Version 2. Ever since, my interest in forums and posting has diminished at least 50%. If there's ever anything new to report, or amazing IOIs happen, I'll be sure to post about it. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - denis - 06-23-2016 11:42 AM I'm a newbie and my reports are trashy. But at least I can understand what is a hit and what isn't. There is already some posters that I avoid reading because they lack basic social skills and simply have no clue of social interactions. They look at IOI's from the most improbable places. "That girl that is 200 meters away looked at me and then looked away when I saw her. Probably she was attracted to me but thought I am a high value man and felt afraid to lock eye contact". Dude, that is a NORMAL everyday interaction. And she could never sniff you phero. Or even if she did, she wouldn't know this phero came from you. "Well, this girl at a clothing store was trying to sell me a $300 t-shirt and told me I could be a male super model. I was using AV, so I think she thought I am a mature and masculine man. I bought the shirt and the girl was giggling all the time. This is the power of mones". Seriously? "I was at a line and one girl that was ahead of me seemed anxious. She looked back one time, as if she was searching for something. Then, some minutes later, she looked back again and locked eyes on me.. and gave me a shy smile" Ok, now we are talking. MAYBE it's a hit from phero. The thing is, as I'm a newbie, I already know it's impossible to state if it's a definitely hit from mones or not. Well, at least I didn't get any DIH yet. EDIT: can you recommend some good members that wrote journals? I want to read real reports, and not "I went to a coffee shop and there were 3 super models that invited themselves to my house, and when we arrived home they were all over me. But I only fucked one of them. She was a virgin, lol. But I could have fucked the 3 at the same time if I wanted" RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - theLaw - 06-23-2016 1:03 PM Great place to start........very detailed : http://houseofpheromones.com/ RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Ekscentra - 06-23-2016 3:00 PM Paradox, NikkiReloaded, SeekingSuccess and dsouza have some of the most BS-free journals which remain active. thundr, as3, Pheroman, and LebronJames' journals are must-reads as well. If you really want to get into this hobby, read all posts by tacitus on PheroTalk (surfs_up on PheroLibrary) as well as Warren. Look into everything Pagodeiro and JohnnyHard have posted. I'd also add Alphonse and right_mr's journals on Pago's forum, should you ever drop by there (it's not very active these days). RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Noes - 06-23-2016 3:01 PM Its funny, I joined this forum because I saw Pheroman had a lot of interesting things to say and he looked like he really knew his shit so I wanted to absorb some information from him. However since I've joined, I haven't seen him post a single time! There are still good posters here though. And yes ^ houseofpheromones is a great resource I look there all the time. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - theLaw - 06-23-2016 3:22 PM (06-23-2016 3:00 PM)Ekscentra Wrote: Paradox, NikkiReloaded, SeekingSuccess and dsouza have some of the most BS-free journals which remain active. thundr, as3, Pheroman, and LebronJames' journals are must-reads as well. If you really want to get into this hobby, read all posts by tacitus on PheroTalk (surfs_up on PheroLibrary) as well as Warren. Look into everything Pagodeiro and JohnnyHard have posted. +1 Just be sure to note what version of certain mixes are being used in these journals. A314 most Androtics products AM LIIK have all changed...........just to mention a few. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - VishRemma - 06-24-2016 12:29 PM (06-23-2016 3:00 PM)Ekscentra Wrote: Paradox, NikkiReloaded, SeekingSuccess and dsouza have some of the most BS-free journals which remain active. thundr, as3, Pheroman, and LebronJames' journals are must-reads as well. If you really want to get into this hobby, read all posts by tacitus on PheroTalk (surfs_up on PheroLibrary) as well as Warren. Look into everything Pagodeiro and JohnnyHard have posted. Eks, you are spot on with all these guys listed. Excellent reads all of them. Another reason some people stop reporting in their journal, is that they have passed on, such as Tacitus and Silly Kitty. Although after reading all of Tacitus' posts several times now, it really would not surprise me if he found a way to post from the phero afterworld...
RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - MMM - 06-24-2016 1:21 PM (06-24-2016 12:29 PM)VishRemma Wrote: Eks, you are spot on with all these guys listed. Excellent reads all of them. Another reason some people stop reporting in their journal, is that they have passed on, such as Tacitus and Silly Kitty. Although after reading all of Tacitus' posts several times now, it really would not surprise me if he found a way to post from the phero afterworld... I knew Tacitus was said to be MONING IT UP in heaven, but missed the word aobut Silly Kitty. Thanks. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Pheroman - 06-24-2016 9:25 PM (06-23-2016 3:01 PM)Noes Wrote: Its funny, I joined this forum because I saw Pheroman had a lot of interesting things to say and he looked like he really knew his shit so I wanted to absorb some information from him. However since I've joined, I haven't seen him post a single time! LoL thanks for the kind words. I do hope you something useful from my postings, cause I sure did. After posting for a few years, it just feels like posting the same stuff over an over. I do occasionally go back through my journal to refresh my memory on certain products. That doesnt mean i sprays on some stuff and get instantly laid or hit a juke box any time I want some music (if you remember Fonzy lol) But the effects are pretty much the same though I am a little more aware of the nuances. Personally I dont agree with a lot of the preconceptions about certain products, so i recommend keep an open mind and test for yourself. (06-21-2016 10:26 PM)MMM Wrote: Is it just my crazy thinking, or has all the old posters been outdated by all the NEW MONE EXPERTS?Who you calling old?
RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - dsouza - 06-28-2016 6:10 AM MMM Old posters are still here. You are here. I am here. So are many others. I know Terry still frequents the forum but doesn't post much. As3.. Who knows what happened to him???? MIA? RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - SeekingSuccess - 06-28-2016 9:49 AM Yeah it would be nice if As3 would pop his head in here more often his posts/journal is legendary.
RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - HappyGoSkillfully - 07-08-2016 10:36 PM I get it. Sometimes it just gets very boring and repetitive reading similar posts and questions over and over and over. Many of them super-exaggerated, etc. I've been off the grid for sometime because of this exactly. I've tried over 90 different phero blends and I have never chimed in on a Top 5 list ...yet. I just got sick of the Same Ole Shit. I certainly will still check in on occasion for entertainment and definitely before making another purchase. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - 1Trajan - 07-09-2016 3:33 AM (07-08-2016 10:36 PM)HappyGoSkillfully Wrote: I get it. Sometimes it just gets very boring and repetitive reading similar posts and questions over and over and over. Many of them super-exaggerated, etc. So what's your top 5? Lol! Yep. Agreed. Same old same old. Most of my mones are gathering dust. I have a few favorites, but many of what I got here was overhyped in my opinion. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Yahachu - 07-09-2016 8:21 AM (07-09-2016 3:33 AM)1Trajan Wrote: So what's your top 5? evolve, wolf, tusc, Voodoo, xist... All of them were hyped so much. Maybe it's just incompatibility with me. Not that some hype hasnt been deserved. I just take everything here with a grain of salt nowadays. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Spider-mone - 07-09-2016 10:14 AM (07-09-2016 8:21 AM)Yahachu Wrote: evolve, wolf, tusc, Voodoo, xist... All of them were hyped so much. even the salt has been over hyped. i tried using a grain of salt.... did f*ck all for me ... lol RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Jimmycrack - 07-09-2016 5:58 PM (07-09-2016 10:14 AM)Spider-mone Wrote: even the salt has been over hyped. i tried using a grain of salt.... did f*ck all for me ... lol You need to try either mega grains or micro then... start at .312mcg go down or 50mcg and build up ![]() And remember if you are genetically SNP to salt, all of your testing is worthless especially if you are testing around Pacific Islanders in NJ. RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - Yahachu - 07-09-2016 7:55 PM (07-09-2016 5:58 PM)Jimmycrack Wrote: You need to try either mega grains or micro then... start at .312mcg go down or 50mcg and build up Holy shit my sides pls it hurts RE: Where have all the REAL POSTERS gone? - BigDickBandit420 - 08-14-2016 2:44 AM (06-23-2016 3:00 PM)Ekscentra Wrote: Paradox, NikkiReloaded, SeekingSuccess and dsouza have some of the most BS-free journals which remain active. thundr, as3, Pheroman, and LebronJames' journals are must-reads as well. If you really want to get into this hobby, read all posts by tacitus on PheroTalk (surfs_up on PheroLibrary) as well as Warren. Look into everything Pagodeiro and JohnnyHard have posted. Where is pago's forum? Thanks |