(11-03-2017 7:28 PM)kocik2000 Wrote:  In his defense I would say he does give a good overlook of a product and what it is known to do, just not necessary for everyone and with a current batch.

Not In his defense he sounds like someone who read most of the positive reviews of old AM from a variety of people and infomercialized it.

That's how I see it. And the constant provocative picture to turn guys on which makes them enter desperation to advocate achieving that type of woman with that type of praised product. We all know how guys act when the little man down stairs takes over.

But hey, it's business for him and I don't like shitting on anyone's business but those kind of reviews have no place for a place like pherotruth. How would you feel if mark praised products here publically since he too benefits from referral links? Would you say this place is genuine?

Also reminds me of people who sign up here to praise one product then leave when the hype for that product dies down, or proven be genuine members that it is shit.

I used AM and even though it's not my favourite product (never really liked Chris's commercial phermones but I did buy plenty of single molecules for him ) this guy didn't go deep enough to show us that he genuinely used it. He sounds like he wanted to sell something

I've read some of PheroJoe's reviews before and as with most things, I agree with some and disagree with some. I remember he wrote that PXS sprays were inferior to their oils and that's true from my experience. Xist, Evolve and Taboo spray did basically nothing for me, but their oils are generally decent products, SOB being the best hands down.

I'd take many reports with a grain of salt. In the end you only have your own experiences and worldview. For example, when he says that SOB oil mostly attracts girls with daddy issues and drama queens, that's where I disagree. It depends on how you look at it and your levels of understanding. Also how you conduct yourself. At a party, or more like a kickback a while ago there was girl there I didn't know very well who out of nowhere blurted out "you've probably been with a lot of girls". I replied "not as many as you think" (which is the truth anyway). It's important to note that she didn't say it in a critical manner, it was out of admiration, which communicates that she thinks I'm so attractive that I probably get a lot of girls. My reply insinuates that I have standards which only adds to the attraction. This is a normal, decent looking girl, bit of a geek with a good girl reputation and she loves heavy metal. You'll see this a lot with products like Bad Wolf, Aqua Vitae and SOB. People will try to fill in the blanks, and we all judge people on their appearance and mannerisms. A lot of that is subconscious, obviously. And if people give you shit like "you must be a player" or whatever, it's not that hard to diffuse the situation by being real and just telling them you can't resist a beautiful girl and you don't appreciate being shamed for it. They'll come around, you'll see. And with SOB, the slightest hint of me being dismissive when I girl shows interest, without fail they always say something like "oh, so your girlfriend is waiting for you at home". Sometimes with AV, people assume I'm a drug dealer, other times, it has a strong celebrity effect. That's why it can be hard to write proper reports on pheromone products. I could probably write a book on the effects of Bad Wolf and it still wouldn't be enough to cover every aspect. Don't listen to me either, the most valuable source of information are your own experiences.

I'm not sure why he claims there has been minor changes to AM over the last 2 years. Not true at all and I'm not the only one saying that. While the old AM had that badass element to it, it was a lot more than that. It made girls intimidated, attracted and comfortable at the same time. Over and over again I'd see girl look over at me in college, at the gym with a sense of awe. They were visibly happy when I acknowledged them with a simple hello. It's those wide eyes and anticipation, kind of like when you see a really hot girl walking down the street and she knows she's hot, you instantly want her. Best way to sum up the old AM, he's a man. It's that simple. Girls were seeking me out everywhere, lingering around. With me the old AM gave me an aura of high sexuality and a protector alpha male aura. Why is that so attractive to women? Because a dangerous, yet civilized man can protect her and he gets shit done. What's important to me in a relationship are traditional roles, the respect of my girl and sex. And the high none caused arousal and sparks. The current AM just can't compete. The old AM wasn't just ideal for one night stands, far from it. I could use it anywhere and it would hit basically every woman I encountered. In interactions, girls would light up, be very happy to talk to me and that intensity was always in the air. So to be brief, that's what I'll compare AM NOS with.

I'll also add cops to AM NOS eventually and give an individual report on that. I used cops with the old AM a few times with success. I'm not sure where this copulins phobia is coming from, but I don't care. I know from my own experience that it works best to rig the game and appear as in demand as possible to get the girls you really want. It's better to have to convince girls you're not a scumbag than those try hard wannabes who do the opposite. It's all dependent on your personality and preferences. Using cops in the beginning is a great way of establishing a relationship because of the tension and anxiety it creates in the girl. The more valuable you appear, the better and the harder she'll work to get you. If she can't dig my swag, she's not a girl I'd want anyway. On the topic of cops, I'll use Copulins X which I recently got in the mail. Thanks to BAGreat for being honest for saying his product would be less stinky than other cops out there. He kept his words and it seems like a strong product. Well done.

@Mac that is a good report. I have used the older version of AM and I know what you're talking about. I'm gonna attach an image later on of AM bought on 2011

I don't agree with it being an overall product but i do agree whole heart-idly that it is a down and dirty one. I never really reported much on it before only because i was really concentrating on single molecules then took time off of internet/forums and I'm back again.

I wont get into the down and dirty details but this is the one product that doesn't work with me right away and works with me 6 hours AFTER I spray it. I used it a lot over the years and the Aura it gives is "Do you want me to rock your world in bed? brace yourself and get ready for me, you might be the lucky one im gonna talk to and bring home"

I swear to you, from my first ever bathroom sex to getting off a bus and drying humping a woman behind a tree without any spoken words.

That bus incident was after a club where i had no success with am at all and i was horny as hell, but this woman looked back and zeroed in on me when she pulled the bell for her stop she just stood there while the bus was moving towards her stop which took 5 minutes. No spoken words just eye contact the whole time, all 5 minutes. She looked, bit her lip, one knee bends then straightens while the other knee bends then straightens. She gets off and the bus leaves while im on it. I was like fuck it, i pressed to stop at the next stop that was 2 min back and ran to where she got off. It was dark, late at night. I came to her and said "I'm sorry but im an ass not getting cue and that's why im here. I'm sooo fuckin horny!." She said we can't do much but told me to follow her and yeah dry humping and kissing at its finest.

I have never seen her again

Many reports but nothing as extreme as this one. I think for a sexual product nothing beats AM in my experience but not even close to over all. Maybe paired with something else but i tried socials and they didn't do a good job carrying that AM viabe. socials were instant shine, honesty, true radiance, glace(did they change the glace version as well ? I liked glace and it was easy to mimic with Alpha nol l+ beta nol + p103 or any loss of inhibition molecule).

negatives were can't be used in daytime for me personalty. No self effects. Make you fucking horny and i dont know about you but me when i get super horny i feel like a school boy who just entered adolescence, and last but not least stay the fuck away from women on their cycle. Even addins Dienone didn't help... i almost got bitch slapped by a woman at men's clothing store

@Mac I have a feeling you carry yourself with more confidence than me and know how to play it right. Like you said everything plays a roll, personality, looks, how you carry yourself. I'm not in for a sexual products that much and more into overall personal transformation ones.

I have to admit i didn't go clubbing or bars for a very long time only because from work, school, to traveling a lot and recently got divorced so settling that while paying for my grandma's christmas present that is limiting my pheromone purchases to only $100

My sexual needs are being met also so maybe thats why im not motivated much to go clubbing/bars. From an up and coming model who just barely scratched the surface of her modeling career. I met her without pheromones, she works at starbucks and just talking to her and being too honest with her. She gave me a wrong phone number first then i gave her shit for it and apparently thats what got her juices going haha, each boob is the size of her face. She is not the confident type but is good at faking it. I never mentioned that only because it doesn't contribute to anything really since no pheromones were used.

Like you, I'm not shy but interverted if that makes sense. I dont speak to people not because im scared of them or think of how i would be judged but more like i would rather not waste so much energy and just stay comfortable. I smile at them and most smile back. I take advantage of opportunities though that i have a strong feeling i can capitalize on, and smiling alone almost doubled those oppurtunities.

I have been testing AV since October 12 and will finish the actual test on november 12. Been wearing it almost every other day and it doesn't hold a candle to AM of old when it comes to a sexual product. I will report then.

I need to learn to not writing too much every post.

Sorry lol

P.s. Any typos or grammatical errors,i blame my Cat Lilly

Real talk, old AM is mostly an attraction and sexual product. I remember when I first started using it I was only 21 and didn't really know what I was doing. Worked as a waiter in a pretty big restaurant and witness lots of crazy shit happening around me. One girl who was working there, came up to me the 2nd day I worked there and introduced herself, she was very forceful and flirty, pointing to her name-tag to show her big tits. She was very confident and the sexual tension was insane, I swear it was almost like entering another dimension. If that had happened today, I easily could've taken her out back and did some dry humping too, or more. A few days later, I overheard her saying to a couple of other girls working there "I get a clit-boner every time he's around" And that's just one example.

I agree AM wasn't an overall product. I meant that I could use it anywhere and get insane hits. Then there's the confidence and sense of entitlement you get that comes with all the attraction from so many women. That's why I loved AM so much. And the instant none rush before hitting the gym, damn.

Overall products would be Bad Wolf, Nude Alpha and TUSC in my view. Most transformative product is Bad Wolf, I feel like a beast when using it and I mean that in a good way. There are so many levels to Bad Wolf and the product description is accurate.

I agree with you on AV. It gets me a lot of attention, but it's hard to use. AM was more balanced and hit harder and more deeply, more primal product. I think of AM as a sexy woman with charm and who knows how to seduce. AV is like a photoshopped pornstar with no personality or brains. That's why I combo AV with BW to give it more depth and substance.

yes, this was my experience with old AM (unscented) of which I got in 2013 and I still have approx 60% of the bottle left. Usually had to let it bake on the skin for at least 3 hours. Insane hits one day at car dealership from young receptionist who looked at me like she saw God and she couldn't stop staring at me...later finding excuses to come closer to the lounge area where I was sitting, pretending to clean up and hovering to stay close, checking me out.

@TheManInTheFedora

Come to think of it, the current AM seems lighter than before, have you tried it, and what is your opinion on it. Does it take you 6 hours before you see hits or was it right away? Sorry just thinking if the strong version worked 6 hours after, maybe the light version is instant?

(11-04-2017 4:27 PM)Indi-player Wrote:  @TheManInTheFedora

Come to think of it, the current AM seems lighter than before, have you tried it, and what is your opinion on it. Does it take you 6 hours before you see hits or was it right away? Sorry just thinking if the strong version worked 6 hours after, maybe the light version is instant?

No sorry, I don't have the current version nor the NOS version that is being discussed here. Therefore, I cannot make a comparison.

I remember old threads (old AM) where people said that they got hits even stronger the next day when they didn't take a shower.

Copied and pasted from me journal. Even though I was wearing a combo of A.M. NOS + C-Musk, I thought I should mention it here.

Biggest difference hit wise I can see with NOS is the imprint factor. I don't think it's fall out, but it's a slight little imprint for sure.

So I've been texting and calling the lil brunette in post #320 for a bit and we caught up last night.

I wore 2 A.M. NOS smudged on sides of me Adams apple and outer wrists with 2 6"lines of C-musk on me inner arms.

Description of her; she's 24 (looks even younger cos she's tiny) black hair, grey sorta light blue eyes, beautiful slightly sun tanned caucasian skin, medium make up with fake lashes, black dress with a strapless bra. And the panties, well I'll keep that info to meself. Smile

I wanned to check out a new bar at west end which i never went to, so i told her to meet me there. After we caught up in the bar, it was amazing. It was a hook from the get go. Loved it. Had a great time and with A.M. NOS like I said before, there's a slight little imprint.

Unlike the A.M. silicone, she didn't ask me to leave or didn't give me hints to get out after we did the deeds. And kinda like that other lady I slept with in that ride share trip, while wearing 4 L2K v1 + 4 Glace, she was super wet down there. Lol. While I give some credit to the mones I should mention that I like long sensual fore play while going down on the ladies I sleep with. Especially if they're sexy. ;)

The night went on with a good old spooning at her place and this morning she made me some good bacon and eggs. Lol. Wow. That's very rare. I really liked her cos of that. So we hung out at a park from there on out till now.

I didn't clean the app point last night and didn't clean it this morning either, (cos I was at her place) I just had a quick shower, while soaping only me genitals and arm pits, leaving the app points unsoaped, but I feel that it was still working. Cos the hand holding and the cuddles were amazing at the park. I loved it.

She smells nice herself. I have a feeling she's wearing some kinda ambergris product. I can smell the ambergris on her neck. I kept smelling her neck and I couldn't get'nuf. Some sorta sweet amber smell mixed with a floral hint. She actually told me that. "U really like the perfume am wearing don't ya?" I didn't say yes, I just murmured "mmh hmm" lol. She was wearing the same perfume last night at the bar too. Smile

A weird feeling I have that may be she's wearing mones too cos last night I was hooked on her too tbh. I could notice other ladies and gentlemen giving me a fair bit of interest but I just didn't care. All me attention was on her.

And so I've used AM NOS for 3 days straight.

I ordered it in Sandalwood Musk, but for some reason I got it unscented. A bit shady if you ask me, especially when it clearly said "specify scent if desired" on the sales page.

Self effects are decent. The none hits pretty fast and the typical feelings of confidence and well being are there. My impression is that old AM is 100% power, current version 40% and NOS is around 70%. So at least it's better than the current version.

Effects on others seems decent. Got some halfway blatant hits here and there, mostly in the gym and stores. Haven't used it in a club or bar setting yet. It's pretty cold here now, snowy and icy. But that wasn't much of an issue with old AM. In all honesty, NOS doesn't hit as good and hard as old AM. It's probably because of the change in none supplier.

$80+$40 shipping for an okay sexual/attraction product means I won't recommend it. I still have some left of an old bottle saved for special occasions and just sniffing the sprayer takes me back. Old AM is definitely the superior product.

There are better sexuals out there for a better price. The Edge is slightly better than AM NOS and way cheaper. The Edge + Taboo is a great sexual combo in my opinion that can be used anywhere, though best in clubs and bars. AV + Impi is similar to old AM, best used in daytime.

RIP Alfa Maschio. We had a good run, but as they say, all good things come to an end.

(11-23-2017 3:07 PM)MacCauley Wrote:  $80+$40 shipping for an okay sexual/attraction product means I won't recommend it. RIP Alfa Maschio. We had a good run, but as they say, all good things come to an end.

Wow, it sucks to hear that even with the alcohol carrier it is still underperforming compared to the vintage juice. I was thinking of ordering a bottle of AM NOS next, hoping it was as good as the original formula. Now, not so sure if I still want to go that route.

What year did you get your vintage AM MacCauley? And what were your dosages while testing the AM NOS? And damn, where are you located if you don't mind me asking? $40 for shipping is way too much!!!