(02-04-2018 12:50 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  [b]Before this application, I had PA + VD at the day time. But before I applied A.M. NOS, I did a full clean and flush of PA + VD.

Sorry to interrupt DrChocolate, is PA = Possess Alpha?

(02-05-2018 9:48 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  Sorry to interrupt DrChocolate, is PA = Possess Alpha?

Affirmative. Yep. PA is possess alpha.

Anyone try AM Nos + M3X?

(02-05-2018 10:18 PM)Chow165 Wrote:  Anyone try AM Nos + M3X?

No but if you read my journal I did some positives tests with m3x and AM 2014 in my very first usages of m3x.

Since then ,however , m3x-- worn solo, seems to do the trick almost every time.

I have AM NOS on the way being shipped to me. We'll have to see just how good/bad it performs and also if I can tolerate the Androstadienone .

Looking forward to reading your test results. I'm still on the fence on AM NOS.

(02-07-2018 7:25 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  Looking forward to reading your test results. I'm still on the fence on AM NOS.

You should just order a bottle as they can be refunded if you don't like them. Nothing beats individual testing. Living in Canada I don't even have that luxury to send it back for a refund with the policies exporting pheromones here... also the Androstadienone factor... So I'm taking a much bigger risk than you.

Yes I would definitely order it and try it myself, except the last time I returned a product to them (Alpha Dream), I had to call them a few times to find out why they weren't issuing me a return credit. When I finally was able to speak to someone, Mara who is Chris' business partner, started going off on me. Apparently she was upset because the bottle of LIIK v1 I had returned, was half way full. So I explained to her that in order for me to find out if the product was any good, I had to try it at different dosages, over and over again, during the 90 day return/exchange period, until I found a satisfactory doge.

She replied by saying that she would "make an exception" and issue me the refund. I then asked her how was I supposed to know if the product was worth keeping, if I was not able to give it a good run? And that the reason it was being returned was due to the fact that the formulation had changed, which they had admitted when they said they were using a different supplier for -none.

So, that is the reason why I'm still on the fence on getting AM NOS, because if I use it, and it doesn't perform well for me, I'll have to return it, and I just don't want to deal with such poor customer service from her. I was thinking of posting that experience on the forum, but I didn't because I took into consideration the fact that they were going thru some hard times with the -none issue, with people not buying, or returning the products due to the change in performance on those products affected.

That AM NOS 2012 link leads to a missing webpage btw. Wasn't planning on buying it since I am thinking full bottle BW next once some money comes my way but wanted to see the price . Are they out ?

It could be that they ran out of it and it's not coming back, as I believe I read somewhere that is was a limited edition of old stock AM they found in their warehouse or something to that nature. Perhaps you can send them an email and see what they say about that.

(02-07-2018 8:44 PM)DssMaster Wrote:  Yes I would definitely order it and try it myself, except the last time I returned a product to them (Alpha Dream), I had to call them a few times to find out why they weren't issuing me a return credit. When I finally was able to speak to someone, Mara who is Chris' business partner, started going off on me. Apparently she was upset because the bottle of LIIK v1 I had returned, was half way full. So I explained to her that in order for me to find out if the product was any good, I had to try it at different dosages, over and over again, during the 90 day return/exchange period, until I found a satisfactory doge.

She replied by saying that she would "make an exception" and issue me the refund. I then asked her how was I supposed to know if the product was worth keeping, if I was not able to give it a good run? And that the reason it was being returned was due to the fact that the formulation had changed, which they had admitted when they said they were using a different supplier for -none.

So, that is the reason why I'm still on the fence on getting AM NOS, because if I use it, and it doesn't perform well for me, I'll have to return it, and I just don't want to deal with such poor customer service from her. I was thinking of posting that experience on the forum, but I didn't because I took into consideration the fact that they were going thru some hard times with the -none issue, with people not buying, or returning the products due to the change in performance on those products affected.

That's terrible customer service. Thanks for reminding to never buy from them again.