Curse you ohhmygod and your recommendation of AM and TL. I'm addicted. I have to up my stash of AM now that I've got so much TL its coming out of my ears.

I've never had so many hits with another mix since I've used mx297 and ammo

AM + TL is not only attractive but is extremely social. I've not seen that much social proofing and buddying from guys since I've worne cops with socials and mx297 as stand alone. The ladies are also attracted. You're a very social alpha and the girls aren't very intimidated, the guys are very chummy and you get good respect without any distance.

I've had 6 very blatant hits from girls and guys in 1 night after checking out a new bar on the street where I usually do my pubbing for the second time.

1) A girl from the bar taking my phone from me and putting her number in it (fairly attractive 7.5 out of a 10)
2) Another girl from the same bar flirting with me blatantly even though I'm seemingly not interested (not attractive 4 out of a 10)
3) Same girl from 1 meets me at the door when I'm about to leave and asks me to ask her out this week
4) The bartender giving me a mocktail on the house after I mentioned that I couldn't drink too much alcohol as I was driving (my table ordered quite a bit of food and alcohol so the mocktail could have been a good gesture, but free is still a hit!)
5) Some random guy I met on my first visit who's apparently a regular here coming up to me and just talking to me about his life.. and talking... and talking.... and talking.....
6) A buddy whom I know from another group who also happened to be at the bar... (ok this is boring, its another guy and not too notable so let's forget about this one, let's just say he was really chummy, overly chummy)

Had a gay guy hit on me as well. Wtf, but that doesn't count as a hit. And no, this isn't where the title comes from.

AM + TL is possibly boyfriend destroyer material as well, going out with an attactive girl 8/10 this thursday. She has a boyfriend but asked me out anyway after meeting me at a gathering while I was on the AM + TL mix (details remain undisclosed for real life purposes since some of my friends might be reading this). She doesn't seem the type (you never know though) but I'm positive that she was giving me IOI's the entire night we met. She kept talking to me, asking my opinion on things, what I liked, what inspires me and at the end of the night said that we should hang out more and a couple of days later texted to ask if I was free for dinner and movie this thursday night

So far I've had 2 girls ask me out while on this mix. Gathering girl and Bar girl. THIS IS GOOD SHIT


ps. On a side note, has anyone found that they could OD on TL before? For some reason I think too much TL especially solo irritates some guys especially beta types. I've had two incidents where I wore TL on more than 10-15 sprays in a span of 5 hours (constant refreshing every hour) and had guys responding to me as if I was some big kid/helpless dweeb that somehow manages to piss them off in even the smallest ways imaginable

Very good hits,iam curious on how much sprays u got in that night??


I know alot of guys here who use AM + TL i got both so i will hav to try it!!

---

Btw i didnt get it if it was not for the Gay hit,what is the reason for that title??

Lol. Funny title.

Come on G, how many sprays and where did you apply? Scented or un? Daytime or nighttime only?

I gotta try this one out...

delete

(01-03-2012 6:41 PM)Gslinger Wrote:  ps. On a side note, has anyone found that they could OD on TL before? For some reason I think too much TL especially solo irritates some guys especially beta types. I've had two incidents where I wore TL on more than 10-15 sprays in a span of 5 hours (constant refreshing every hour) and had guys responding to me as if I was some big kid/helpless dweeb that somehow manages to piss them off in even the smallest ways imaginable

Big Kid effect = high EST, but you can do what you want, because you are so sweet, they forgive everything...

Piss effect = high Androstadienone , makes guys really depressive... + EST (the guardian/emotional big daddy effect)

Hey Gslinger, nice post!

How much AM & TL were you using in post #1? Number of sprays/drops total prior to your visit to the bar.

Thanks!

No forgiveness man... Not at least from some people. I'm thinking of going mx297 and Instant Openness with that group the next time I'm out with them to salvage the TL OD

(01-03-2012 7:34 PM)JohnnyHard Wrote:  
Big Kid effect = high EST, but you can do what you want, because you are so sweet, they forgive everything...

Piss effect = high Androstadienone , makes guys really depressive... + EST (the guardian/emotional big daddy effect)

---

No forgiveness man... Not at least from some people. I'm thinking of going mx297 and Instant Openness with that group the next time I'm out with them to salvage the TL OD

(01-03-2012 7:34 PM)JohnnyHard Wrote:  
Big Kid effect = high EST, but you can do what you want, because you are so sweet, they forgive everything...

Piss effect = high Androstadienone , makes guys really depressive... + EST (the guardian/emotional big daddy effect)

(01-03-2012 7:52 PM)Gslinger Wrote:  No forgiveness man... Not at least from some people. I'm thinking of going mx297 and Instant Openness with that group the next time I'm out with them to salvage the TL OD

---

No forgiveness man... Not at least from some people. I'm thinking of going mx297 and Instant Openness with that group the next time I'm out with them to salvage the TL OD

(01-03-2012 7:34 PM)JohnnyHard Wrote:  
Big Kid effect = high EST, but you can do what you want, because you are so sweet, they forgive everything...

Piss effect = high Androstadienone , makes guys really depressive... + EST (the guardian/emotional big daddy effect)

I know, I mean with a pure social mix, without a strong alpha signature and high Androstadienone .

AM with high Androstadienone from TL is a I hate this guy effect, because they feel it + the envy (women want you) effect.

What the fudge... I wrote a big ass post and somehow it didn't get posted and now I have to try and recall what I wrote, including my lame jokes.

-------------------------------------------------------------------
To preck:

Gay = Gh3y = 9h3y = IMBA

IMBA = Awesome Sauce

Awesome is the cranberry in the turkey gravy

Awesome is the colors in the rainbow

Awesome is all the fish in the sea and the trees in the forest

Sauce is well.. Just sauce


To JAYCEE and Dafix:

I had 2 sprays AM (to each side of my neck) and 6 sprays TL (2 to hair, 1 to back of neck, 1 to wrist and rubbed each other and 2 to my inner elbows which means 1 each)

2 sprays AM and 4-6 sprays of TL seem to be my sweet spot. 3 sprays AM give me the best self effects but 2 seem to register better on others. If I'm out for more than 3-4 hours on the mix, I usually refresh with 1 more shot of AM and 2-3 shots of TL. The 2 spray AM and TL mix is pretty safe to me, so safe that I wore it to Christmass Mass and even got hits there.

I can't remember the Alfa scent but I like it. The TL scented is Axe. TL used at gathering was scented, Bar was unscented. I bought unscented because the girls either outrightly hate it or just love it. I've had complaints about the axe being unpleasant or too strong so I ordered unscented on my latest order

(01-03-2012 7:10 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Lol. Funny title.

Come on G, how many sprays and where did you apply? Scented or un? Daytime or nighttime only?

I gotta try this one out...

Am + Tl is probably the combo i've worn the most overall.

Advantages:
Like you said, Gslinger, it's very attractive and social. You can close girls. And it's not intimidating on younger girls.

(01-03-2012 7:34 PM)JohnnyHard Wrote:  
Big Kid effect = high EST, but you can do what you want, because you are so sweet, they forgive everything...

Piss effect = high Androstadienone , makes guys really depressive... + EST (the guardian/emotional big daddy effect)

Big daddy effect is a very accurate description.
Guys want to teach you, like you don't know what's going on. Even with the alpha 'mones in AM, there is very little respect from guys, and also probably some envy. One guy commented on me and my hot date: "Even a blind hen sometimes finds a grain of corn." (I was wearing AM+TL)


IMO the mix is a little weak lately for me, in clubs. Stronger alpha stuff gives me better hits from girls, especially in the very first seconds, when you either get into a set, or get kicked out. Though stronger alpha stuff tends to intimidate younger girls. AM+TL may be more suitable for bars, when there's more conversation. I feel like especially with much more TL than AM it gets a little beta.

I suppose one extra drop of AV may counteract this. At least it seemed to work for me, yesterday and gave me a bad-boy vibe. AM solo is very nice as well!