found this vid on youtube

I love his advice. I am in no doubt that he get tons of female responses. his advice for photos are great so is his describtion of himself. His way of teasing he's target is a fresh breath from others. However if it were me, i wouldnt belive his behaviour : "I dont take this to serious. I am just here from an advice from my friend, but doesnt put much into this" . This simply because he put so much effort in writing his description of himself and with great humour. Thats not something you do in a hurry before you leave it with that, not even for a writer. So if i had read his profile, i would tought he was embarassed over being there and therefor pretended not to care.
But if i was one of the women, it wouldnt be a big issue anyway, because many people might be embarassed, its natural.

I think a lot of it depends on the target audience you are looking to attract or meet. That guy would be gold for women in their twenties up to maybe the mid thirties who were single and had no kids. I can see his profile and approach going over like gangbusters on that age group.

If you are wanting to open your search up for women into their forties and women that have children I think you might need to buffer your profile a little as well. I would say his was Turn Up The Heat and New Pheromone Additive topped off some Instant Jerk which might not play quite as well with women a little older or those who have kids. Yes those groups still want to have fun and see the mystery and allure and excitement, but also deep down have that strong paternal influence for a good reason LOL.

I think you could do a profile pretty similar, but maybe not as in your face and also buffer it down a little like you would the Turn Up The Heat, New Pheromone Additive and Instant Jerk with some socials or Androstadienone or even TL. Maybe after putting a lot of the cool things in the who you are section you could also add something grounded as well such as, I am also the guy that has been the PTA president, little league coach and someone that my friends always feel secure around. I don't know maybe just a bit of OK, this guy is funny, a bit wild maybe, fun, but somewhere in the midst of all of that is a pretty grounded guy too and someone that takes care of his family or those that truly matter the most to him.

Just my thoughts. What say you?

Quote:I think a lot of it depends on the target audience you are looking to attract or meet. That guy would be gold for women in their twenties up to maybe the mid thirties who were single and had no kids. I can see his profile and approach going over like gangbusters on that age group.

If you are wanting to open your search up for women into their forties and women that have children I think you might need to buffer your profile a little as well. I would say his was Turn Up The Heat and New Pheromone Additive topped off some Instant Jerk which might not play quite as well with women a little older or those who have kids. Yes those groups still want to have fun and see the mystery and allure and excitement, but also deep down have that strong paternal influence for a good reason LOL.

This is essentially where I was coming from when I first started the thread. All methods don't work the same everywhere always, I use online dating as one of my tools for meeting women because of that reason (Don't live in a big city, work a lot, etc.) Also one thing to consider is that the point of view that I'm coming from is from using sites where people aren't looking for anything serious and "Friends with benefits" situations are accepted as well as advertised. If you guys saw my profile, you'd laugh because: I only have 2 pictures, and I write absolutely NOTHING about myself. I'm good looking as in I have a handsome face (not traditionally) but as it stands understand me when I say that by no stretch of the imagination am I the biggest heartthrob or ridiculously good looking. Only 2 pictures, my face smiling and me on stage playing my keyboard at a big concert. For me this shows the girls that I'm: Not ugly, I'm fun, musician...musicians are cool, enjoys large crowds/parties. They look for a description they see nothing, however they do see that I sent them a message just introducing myself, she wants to know more, so now she's literally FORCED to talk to me. And when she does, I'm going to game her. Period.

In the video he makes good points but this sounds like it is geared toward websites were people are looking for potential matches or potential long term relationships, I had a look at plentyoffish.com and it's a good site but it has too much of a serious atmosphere, but if that's what you're going for then this video plus what Q-Tips suggested are great ideas. With all due respect I did similar tactics when first going to the sites I vaguely mentioned at the start of this post (sites for flings), and found them ineffective, and I found out the reason is because good looking women who are looking to get laid or just to "see where things go" aren't interested in profile fluff, they want interesting conversation and chemistry. I don't have a problem with anyone's method for online or anything else for that matter but my feeling is that if you're using the internet to look for potential FWB's then you don't really need to use so much theory just to get them interested and talking to you IMHO and after they talk to you it's up to your level of game to get them off the computer, off the phone, out of the date venue and into your place, hers, or a hotel

Alas, everyone has a different thing going on. So I'll close my post out with this, if whatever you're doing gives you the results that YOU WANT, then keep doing it.

Thanks for putting this up, it's an interesting read! Especially for someone in my position, which isn't very promising when it comes to having a social life.

(01-30-2012 3:37 PM)JonJon Wrote:  In the video he makes good points but this sounds like it is geared toward websites were people are looking for potential matches or potential long term relationships, I had a look at plentyoffish.com and it's a good site but it has too much of a serious atmosphere, but if that's what you're going for then this video plus what Q-Tips suggested are great ideas. With all due respect I did similar tactics when first going to the sites I vaguely mentioned at the start of this post (sites for flings), and found them ineffective, and I found out the reason is because good looking women who are looking to get laid or just to "see where things go" aren't interested in profile fluff, they want interesting conversation and chemistry.

Hey JonJon, nice post.. if you don't mind me asking, what sites were you using?

Tought i would tell a story about a woman i been in contact with trough a dating site.

Actually, i am not shure why i have this profile on this site. I am still not in a position where i feel ready for a serious relationship. I have some shit i need get together before i involve others to my life. And this site have mostly southern people signed up. So travel to see anyone is an issue. But i log in frequently mostly just for fun and to look around.
Last December i stumbled upon a woman who is simply drop dead sexy, sweet, beautiful, classy and exotic. There was also no doubt this woman had one of the most visited profile on the site and was constantly among the sites top twenty. Her photos revealed slightly more than whats usuall from women at this site. Because of this, she had written in her profile : "My photos are sexy because I know that men love with their eyes, and I want my man to find me here, I want to be out of competition with other girls, I do not want all the men paid attention to me, but I do not want to miss out my man."

Even tough, i had decided not to contact anyone, i decided to write her. This is what i wrote :

"You are right, men love with their eyes. Actually i have lovely eye's myself
But i dont think that is a bad thing. As i think beauty comes from inside. You see, would you look so wonderful and sexy if you where just an angry bitter person who never bothered working out and never considered living an healty life? I belive a woman is beautiful because she know how to take care of herself. And if a woman know how to take care of herself, wouldnt she know how to take care of her man or children? So if a man find you beautiful its a good thing. Actually i think you should be proud to know you are the most sexy woman on this site. At least i know it would have been wonderful if my future wife found me so sexy she would have trouble keep her hands away from me. Hmmmm... what a good tought.
Sorry if i am wasting your time, because i am not flirting with you. The case is, i am not ready to see anyone at this moment. I want to be serious in my intention and its not possible to see anyone for me now.
Not shure why i wrote you. Just couldnt get your profile out of my mind. Anyway i wish you the best of luck finding your man, i am shure there are plenty to choose from. Maybe you are still around next summer, in that case i will send you a letter myself. "

After a day, she responded to me. She commented on what i said, and was also clearly curious why i couldnt see her. The convo had started and i replied by telling her i am not to be trusted and cant promise her anything. But i might also have added a few hints of me being interested. I got severall letters from her, and i could clearly see she also was intelligent.
The big problem : I actually couldnt go see her. I have a hard time right now and struggle to make the end meets. No way could i afford going anywhere. And no either did i want her to come see me. She wanted to, but i refused. I also told her there would be better choices in other men.
For the last month, i havent been on this dating site before today. It turned out i had several letters from her in my inbox. In the last one from Monday she was clearly dissapointed. She didnt cut me right off and still hope to see me, but she also said she found out i am not to be trusted and think i dont stand up for what i say.

So what is going on with this???? Have i used some sort of reversed psychological kind of stuff? I say dont trust me, so she start trusting me. I say i cant promise you anything, so she thinks i promise her the entire world?
Anyway, it shure worked well telling them "Stay away from me!!"
I think i am able to save money for going next month to see her. So maybe i should just make an initiative?

I believe that you show your honesty and sincerity, (which you have done previously), and which also is what drew her to you. If you wish to have a continued dialogue with her, you must be honest and see where it leads.

Many people on those sites are very tainted due to the fact that there are a vast majority of players and liars on there, both male and female. Many folks use those sites for pure enjoyment without regard for other's feelings. If you continue being honest then you will sleep sound, and also realize that you never had any devious intentions.

If you do truly wish to try and save to go meet her, tell her that. To cover your ass, make sure that you give yourself enough time to ensure that you will be able to make the trip, otherwise if you do not make it, (break plans), you will hurt her feelings, and as well may get hurt yourself.


All the best