So far, my favorite single molecule is Androstenetrione. No crush effect, beautifies most things that I perceive which leads to appreciation of my life.

Looking at the case where no responses happening for some others, I doubt whether HoM's Androstenetrione is consistent (good and bad batches) or whether it's real Androstenetrione.


I dissolved 2~3 capsules in 100ml of perfumer's alcohol. The first case I mentioned above could go wrong during the process of dissolving -etrione. Not much alcohol, not shaken, not enough time etc...

or maybe HoM used to provide real -etrione, I ordered mine in Jun. 2013, and changed it to something else. Someone recently thought it's DHEA or something.

or maybe -etrione is not what it is. I guess Terry mentioned it doubting whether it's real or not.


It's complicated, one thing for sure for me is that my "androstenetrione" works very well. I wish I tried P86 for comparison, however, if they are the same then I don't need to try P86; I got enough lifetime supply of it.

(02-07-2014 12:48 PM)harry.h.lee Wrote:  I dissolved 2~3 capsules in 100ml of perfumer's alcohol. The first case I mentioned above could go wrong during the process of dissolving -etrione. Not much alcohol, not shaken, not enough time etc...

WoW! the House of muscle caps are 500mg each. Or 500,000mcg each.
I think putting 2~3 in 100mL is a very strong concentration.

If you use and Androtics Sprayer (they claim 200 sprays per 30mL, there are many different types of sprayers out there), then with those....

1mg+30mL = 5mcg/spray

1,500mg+100mL = 2,250mcg/spray
(this was your 3 capsules of 500mg each into 100mL perfumer alchohol.)

note: 1mg (milligram) = 1,000mcg (microgram, sometimes mcg or ug the u looks a little bit like a greek mu symbol used for micro, but the website doesn't always keep the symbols looking like symbols, so mcg is used)

He probably planned to redilute it.

If you find that it works, I'd be happy to pay for a few caps. I was planning to make my own.

(02-07-2014 2:49 PM)pharoahman Wrote:  He probably planned to redilute it.

Perhaps.

But it would be easier to use 1 cap and use less solvent, than 2 or 3 caps.
I'm not totally sure he's using the "House of Muscle" stuff that I have. If he is using another brand it may not be the same 500mg/capsule. But still, if it is only 50mg/capsule you only end up moving the decimal place by 1 digit and still a high amount per spray.

I say this, but I've totally had hits at applications up around 10mg, by accident, but there were hits.

(02-07-2014 1:11 PM)dexter Wrote:  WoW! the House of muscle caps are 500mg each. Or 500,000mcg each.
I think putting 2~3 in 100mL is a very strong concentration.

If you use and Androtics Sprayer (they claim 200 sprays per 30mL, there are many different types of sprayers out there), then with those....

1mg+30mL = 5mcg/spray

1,500mg+100mL = 2,250mcg/spray
(this was your 3 capsules of 500mg each into 100mL perfumer alchohol.)

note: 1mg (milligram) = 1,000mcg (microgram, sometimes mcg or ug the u looks a little bit like a greek mu symbol used for micro, but the website doesn't always keep the symbols looking like symbols, so mcg is used)

Haha, I had to redilute for sure. The number was 14285mcg/ml or so. Then, I used 0.5ml from it for about 35.7mcg/spr in 30ml bottle. I'm guessing it was 3 capsules in 105ml, so 1500mg/105ml = 14.285mg/ml or 14285mcg/ml. Usually, higher concentrate mones are easier to mix with many mones. Alpha Androstenol, Beta Androstenol and -Androsterone themselves can take 30-40% of one mix sometimes.

I worried about that the -etrione can be fake because the world anti-doping agency banned -etrione from 2012, which could lead HoM to carry different substances as -etrione. Not so sure though!