I would like to start a(nother) thread on this 3 molecules to discuss their effects based on users experiences and on what two prominent community-members recently posted about them.

Pherstest's single-molecule descriptions on his website and Ekscentras statements about beautyfier and fallout prevention- or "shallow" mones.
Will post the respective links later.

These three are relatively easy to obtain/buy, have very distinct effects and uses and still many users are not as familiar with them as with the "main" Pheromones (none, Androsterone, Androstadienone , the nols). Let's change that.

Considering two of these three are widely available in supplemental form (DHEA and 7-Keto) and two are available in pre-mixed single-molecule form (DHEA and DHEAS), I'm surprised we're not seeing any more reports come in.

dbot's descriptions on http://www.Pheromones.net/ still contain the best resources I've found on these three.

Ekscentra,

Dbot's descriptions are on p h e r o s . net. Forum autocorrects p-h-e-r-o-s to pheromones.

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(11-08-2015 10:06 AM)Alphonse Wrote:  Ekscentra,

Dbot's descriptions are on p h e r o s . net. Forum autocorrects p-h-e-r-o-s to pheromones.

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Yes, unfortunately. p h e r o s .net (no spaces) is the correct address.

link to phertest's descriptions:

http://houseofpheromones.com/human-phero...ules/#DHEA

Allright, I start with DHEA.

Phertest's description points out the various potential benefits of this molecule when worn as an aerosol/pheromone.

Those sound very good and make it plausible to include it as a "round-out" ingredient into heavier male-status mixes. Also, it sounds as if it would be very viable even as a standalone - mood and performance enhancer.
Additionally, we have read about DHEA as a beautyfying molecule, mainly in Wolf, where Ekscentra described it as giving off nearly an "narcistic quality".

On the negative side, it is described as status-reducing, shallow and giving off an immature vibe. This, as well as the positive effects, is of course dosage-dependent and affected by other mones used in conjunction.

My experience is limited to some homebrew application where I eventually messed up the dilution and coul not be bothered to try again.
I guess I wore somewhere between 25 and 60 mcg most of the times.
Distinct effects were mood enhancement and visual brightening when applied as a standalone.

I've also worn it alongside A314 rev. 29 spray and oil.
My impression was that it somewhat buffered the effects I was them used to get from A314 but also change it into another, yet also interesting and useful direction. Less silverback maturity but still some sort of superior alphaness, freshness, virility - of course that impression could have mingled with a preconception I then had with what I thought of this substance.
Still, it might be a Fallout hindering molecule, but status reduction not so much. I felt it still carried lots of it.

Even though, Ekscentra and others therorized that 7-Keto Dhea displays nearly all benefits of DHEA while not interfering with fallout and even stronger beautyfier-properties.

The only readymade product where it is openly stated as an ingredient is Ladykiller by HAX.


It's available in capsules and is fairly soluble in ethanol or perfumers alc. Maybe some of you are inclined to give it another shot ... some members have been there some years ago but participation was not that great. If it's benefits are approaching that what is described here, it should be well worth the bother.

Premixes available:

7-Keto and Dhea at LAL

Dhea, Dheas at PXS

Dhea at Treasures

Also, as stated above, if you mix them yourself, a lifetme supply of Keto or Dhea available at a fraction of the cost.

Nice opportunity to test mones a vastly different ratios. 7-Keto at 5,10, 20, 25, 50, 100, 200, 500 and 1000mcg are ready for filtration right now at my lab.
I used the NOW foods prodcut at 25mg per capsule

Sooo do we expect 7-keto to be a fallout killer or? Hell right now I might need one after wearing GoA and Ascend around a coworker...

From what I'm seeing so far with ladykiller, it doesn't seem to have the same fallout killing effects that DHEA and DHEAS purportedly have.

(11-15-2015 12:03 AM)Phyros Wrote:  Sooo do we expect 7-keto to be a fallout killer or? Hell right now I might need one after wearing GoA and Ascend around a coworker...

Quite the contrary, I think it could be a great way to compound fallout. That naturalization effect is especially useful for making a mix more believable. You can imagine how this might be useful for fallout among other things.