(04-13-2017 9:01 AM)Scottie2Hottie Wrote:  Is that Alpha-THDOC or Allo-THDOC? It is my understanding that they are different. Where are you sourcing it from because I can't find it anywhere?

No, they're the same molecule.

Alpha Dream was the only one I knew of to have actively sourced it. PheromoneXS has it listed, but I've never seen it in stock.

In either case, I no longer use Alpha-THDOC in any amount, as I've found it problematic in terms of buildup and maintaining consistent effects (something I've mentioned numerous times throughout these boards). There are better options to smooth a mix today.

@Ekscentra. I put a lot of value in ur knowledge. And Thanks heaps for sharing it.

One of the best combos I've experienced at this time is the ACE (PSX) + Core (Apex) combo. Do u rekon this combo has the ability to raise status imprint sexual and social aspects on tandem? Kinda like the way u explained in the previous pages of this thread?

I admit that I don't have much knowledge on single molecules. But I have a very strong feeling that ACE +Core (credit to theLaw and consecutive members who helped finding this) combo has the quality of bringing status and fallout WITH the disinhibition/openness in tandem. Cos with this combo I've experienced the fallout in quick bursts but not having the time with the same target to make her feel miss me (while not exposing the mones to her) I can't quite establish it for sure.

So, if EST is anti-fallout, Glace would be a no-no for fallout, right? Damn.

Maybe it depends of the dose of Est in the combo.
Because veteran as33156 give us his fallout combo:
3-6 drops NA
30-50 mcg Androstadienone
3-6 sprays Glace .

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(05-08-2017 6:52 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  @Ekscentra. I put a lot of value in ur knowledge. And Thanks heaps for sharing it.

One of the best combos I've experienced at this time is the ACE (PSX) + Core (Apex) combo.

Dr C,

Just wanted to be sure, when you did use the ACE+Core combo was your Ascend with copulins?

Thanks in Advance!

(05-10-2017 2:22 AM)TheManInTheFedora Wrote:  Dr C,

Just wanted to be sure, when you did use the ACE+Core combo was your Ascend with copulins?

Thanks in Advance!

Affirmative. Yep. Ascend with cops.

(05-08-2017 6:52 PM)DrChocolate Wrote:  I admit that I don't have much knowledge on single molecules. But I have a very strong feeling that ACE +Core (credit to theLaw and consecutive members who helped finding this) combo has the quality of bringing status and fallout WITH the disinhibition/openness in tandem. Cos with this combo I've experienced the fallout in quick bursts but not having the time with the same target to make her feel miss me (while not exposing the mones to her) I can't quite establish it for sure.

To me "Fallout" is created memories combined with emotional feelings of loss when the user is not around. The target misses the user when they are not there. The actual Fallout does not occur until the user is no longer present.

Emotional arousal often leads to stronger memories. Memories are formed in various areas of the brain and then recompiled into one memory upon recall. Long-term memories are stored various areas of the brain as groups of neurons that are primed to fire together in the same pattern that created the original experience. It is thought that each component of a memory is stored in the brain area that initiated it.

Strong emotions trigger the formation of strong memories.

(05-10-2017 6:42 AM)Paradox Wrote:  Strong emotions trigger the formation of strong memories.

Thanks P. In me personal experience out of GOA, Cohesion, Imprint amd Voodoo (although with Voodoo am still learning) I can say that GOA and Imprint are equally up there 'close' to get to the point of fall out. Not there yet, definetely Imprinting in her brain for sure. But not the fall out. YET that is.

What we need to find out is what exactly it is that can increase it to tip the imprint into fall out. I can defo say I like the status part combined with the imprint, it amplifies the imprint but not quiet fall out. And adding the heavy sexual evolve still doesn't tip it to fall out. And add core into the equation and it STILL won't tip it. May be we need to start over again with one by one.

And that aint'nuf either. Like Thundr used to do, when he slept with the target, he used to rub his app point on his target's pillow (I read it somewhere, but I can't remember exactly which page ) that left the smell in her brain, a TRICK like that could tip the imprint into fall out is what am thinking. But with out'nuf testing we can't confirm it.

(05-10-2017 7:01 AM)DrChocolate Wrote:  Thanks P. In me personal experience out of GOA, Cohesion, Imprint amd Voodoo (although with Voodoo am still learning) I can say that GOA and Imprint are equally up there 'close' to get to the point of fall out. Not there yet, definetely Imprinting in her brain for sure. But not the fall out. YET that is.

What we need to find out is what exactly it is that can increase it to tip the imprint into fall out. I can defo say I like the status part combined with the imprint, it amplifies the imprint but not quiet fall out. And adding the heavy sexual evolve still doesn't tip it to fall out. And add core into the equation and it STILL won't tip it. May be we need to start over again with one by one.

And that aint'nuf either. Like Thundr used to do, when he slept with the target, he used to rub his app point on his target's pillow (I read it somewhere, but I can't remember exactly which page ) that left the smell in her brain, a TRICK like that could tip the imprint into fall out is what am thinking. But with out'nuf testing we can't confirm it.

DrChocolate,
You bring up some very interesting points on fall out. How would you suggest using GOA for fall out if one like myself feel spent at two drops by the end of the night. But I did combo it with possess at 4 drops 2 GOA. Although I know it works based on the reactions of those around me. Woukd you say one drop and buffer it with THU for the THU-HUG combo or use some other molecule or Androsterone mone? Thanks for your insight...

(05-18-2017 10:36 PM)AMMO5680 Wrote:  DrChocolate,
You bring up some very interesting points on fall out. How would you suggest using GOA for fall out if one like myself feel spent at two drops by the end of the night. But I did combo it with possess at 4 drops 2 GOA. Although I know it works based on the reactions of those around me. Woukd you say one drop and buffer it with THU for the THU-HUG combo or use some other molecule or Androsterone mone? Thanks for your insight...

I ain't all that sure tbh. Am learning meswlf. but am lucky to tolerate dienone in high doses. What I could suggest and see if it'll work for ya is; over dose GOA (dienone) purposely. Go thru it purposely (depression, lethargy and all that jazz) And forcefully tolerate ur body to it.

As far as I know the human body can handle a fair bit. So if ya push the limit, it'll get there. But be careful.

And THEN combine GOA at high doses and THU. See if that works. Hope that helps. good luck.