A nice little update for you guys!
I've suspected I knew why many molecules, specifically DHEA, DHEAS, Pregnenolone, and P130, significantly detracted from or outright killed fallout anytime they were used in a mix of this nature for quite some time, but I never felt so strongly that my suspicions were true, so I never mentioned it - now that is no longer the case, and while I'm sure there's an even more in-depth answer to be had, I at least have a somewhat specific answer at this point, so I'll share it with you here.
On a general level, DHEA, DHEAS, Pregnenolone, and P130 are shallow, and these specific molecules reduce status to varying degrees, P130 to the weakest extent, DHEA and DHEAS as rough equivalents in the middle, and Pregnenolone by far to the strongest extent, outright killing status in most cases. Seriously, if you want to bring some status whore like Donald Trump down to your level, even the playing field a bit, just spray a good dose of Neno on him and he'll be a completely different person.
In all seriousness, I now feel that Pregnenolone, especially but not exclusively due to its effects on one's status, is the strongest fallout killer by far. Avoid this one at all costs, especially in higher doses, if you're ever going for a fallout mix, and even at lower doses, I don't feel it would be particularly helpful in this context.
On a related note, it seems that the extent to which a molecule is helpful to fallout depends on two factors. The first is how subjectively shallow or deep a molecule feels. Alpha Androstenol at typical doses, for example, feels shallow, as many molecules do. Alpha -nol at a higher dose, say 200mcg or above, feels paradoxically both shallow and deep, being shallow at the surface but deep as you dig deeper into its layers. It's like a psychedelic in that sense, extracting deep meaning out of seemingly shallow or simple ideas.
Both doses of Alpha -nol have a negative effect on one's status, with typical doses having a markedly negative effect - enough to warrant avoiding this dose for fallout - and with high doses having only a slight to moderate negative effect, making this dose useful enough to warrant using in some contexts, depending on the user's preferences.
The dose at which certain molecules best express their deep qualities without compromising too much on status will vary depending on the molecule in question, so for now, I won't cover anything beyond Alpha -nol here.
Other molecules have this shallow quality at all doses that have been tested so far. All four of the molecules I initially mentioned - DHEA, DHEAS, Pregnenolone, and P130 - possess this quality. Alpha -nol possesses this quality at low doses, while seeming to possess (without actually possessing) this quality at high doses.
Of note - a molecule I mentioned earlier in this thread, XSR37/P90, appears to act as a fallout killer on its own, due to possessing this shallow quality noted in the others. Warren used 7.5mcg P87 with 15mcg P90 to balance out this effect, and 15mcg P93 to allow for a true, complete synergy between the two.
P87 is no longer available, but Androstatrione was used in place of P87 by the only other user besides Warren to test this mix in some form, with excellent results. I've come to strongly suspect that P87 is Androstatrione, and it's most certainly a worthy alternative to P87 if that isn't the case. Currently, Androstatrione is not available as a single molecule, but I've asked LAL about it again and it was mentioned (by Garry) that they plan to stock many new single molecules in the future. As to when that future might be? I couldn't say. I do hope to see Androstatrione stocked by Garry and other vendors, since I consider it, along with XSR37/P90, P93, and P96, to be one of the most valuable and powerful single molecules on the market, and aside from PEA the most powerful named molecule I've had the opportunity to test.
Getting back to the topic at hand: it's possible that the shallowness of other molecules can be balanced out through the use of one or more other components, but you have to ask yourself, is doing so really worth it? P90 is one molecule whose effects make it one of the most valuable components there is for fallout, despite detracting from fallout when used on its own. For this reason, it remains a worthwhile component, but it must be balanced out with Androstatrione and, ideally, P93 as well, for best results.
Most traditional "bonding" molecules will detract from status. I suspect this is partially, if not entirely due to their putting the user and the target(s) on the same level, allowing a greater level of empathy to be achieved. This quality is not exclusively relevant to perceived personal status, hence why these effects are not cancelled out or weakened through the use of one or more status-enhancing molecules. Instead, the effects are modulated in some way when status-enhancing molecules are used in the mix. The frame-of-reference changes again.
On status-enhancing molecules + bonding molecules: it's not your fatherly figure vibe straight Androsterone or heavy doses of A314 will put out, and you're not so much perceived as being on the same level either, as you might be with bonding molecules alone. The effects will change depending on the molecules in question and their respective ratios, but in general, there's a slight elevation in status, a sense of distinguishment, but without the "better than you" vibe heavy status on its own can put out. There's understanding and empathy without the need to be on the same level.
It seems an obvious conclusion on the surface, but it's an important point to make. I'm sure many users here have wondered just why bonding molecules don't truly seem to detract from the status put out by status-enhancing molecules, and this is intended to explain just why this isn't the case. If anything, the status is enhanced, modulated but with something more added to it, a depth that wasn't there before.
Heavy status without depth is highly unlikely to cause fallout - there's no empathy there, no sense of understanding. Heavy bonding without status is highly unlikely to cause fallout - there's nothing there signalling that you're of higher value, there's nothing to earn. You're already at his/her level, you've earned that "prize" without any effort. With the right balance between status and bonding, you'll have that sense of constantly chasing given out by heavy status mixes, but with a sense of satisfaction you can only get out of bonding mixes. Without bonding, there is no inherent satisfaction. Without status, there isn't inherently anything to earn. You have to provide this yourself, and doing so can be incredibly difficult. And, after all, aren't pheromones best used to make things easier for everyone?
That, I think, is the best way to explain why a combination of both status and bonding is the only truly effective way to achieve fallout. Either alone is far less powerful than the two in tandem, and no matter how far you go in one direction, that will not make up for the missing status or attraction in whatever combo you're using. They're polar-opposite vibes that, together, create a perfect synergy.
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