This rumor was discussed in posts 9 and 10, and it was disputed even on that thread you posted. Ekscentra makes a good point that MAG seems to be dienone free. If it was highly concentrated AM, it would have depression on par with L2K, at the very least. And someone on that thread mentioned trying AM, MAG, AV, and SS4M (other candidates rumored to be MAG) and said they are different products based on his testing.

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lol Someone said "Maybe Mark is full of shit" but maybe Chris is full of it? It would be in his interest and congruent with his character to lie and say that his product is the same as a legendary mix... And if it was, wouldn't that be against any kind of arrangement they would have? Sounds fishy for sure.

So if that's true, then that takes out AD.

That leaves LAL and Love Scent......


Not sure what other products beside AV it could be from LAL.....

Turn Up The Heat was also mentioned.

(03-06-2016 7:14 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Think I might have found it :

from pheromone-forum.com :

Oh my Lord ..

MAG did get the worst reviews of any products reviewed out there ..

some said it´s the dosing .. others said it´s the formula ..

Chris from Alpha dreams said that it´s made by him and that it´s just concentrated Alfa Maschio ...

like Wang says .. if it´s the same like AM then the self effects must be cool .. Period ... Period ..

From what i ´ve read about the product and from what members told me via PM ..

You better donate your money to the local pet asylum ..

http://pheromone-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=124037

Except they're definitely not the same. I've been well aware of this information for years, and unfortunately, despite what Chris says, it's not correct. If this is what Mark was talking about (which I don't think it is), then old MAG is still nowhere to be found. It would seem a little senseless for Mark not to reveal information that's already known to many of us. I don't think this is what he's alluding to.

Aside from being a spray product, Alter Ego fits the description better. Did he specifically mention it being a spray? I don't think he has. If so, I wouldn't exclude oil products. There simply aren't any good fits in the spray product category. V-nice has tested both and, I believe, found AM to come up short.

This is what I found on Google after a 1min search.

http://pheromones.com/advantage-of-pheromones-for-men/

Max Attraction GOLD for Men helps get you noticed by women by blending 38 mg of total pheromone content in a powerful base. Our pheromones are formulated with a unique silicone oil;

(03-06-2016 7:24 PM)NP17 Wrote:  maybe Chris is full of it? It would be in his interest and congruent with his character to lie and say that his product is the same as a legendary mix... And if it was, wouldn't that be against any kind of arrangement they would have? Sounds fishy for sure.

I second this. It's not in Mark's nature to deliberately give out false information. It is, however, in Chris' nature. I believe this is exactly what happened. If so, we're right back to square one.

(03-06-2016 7:14 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Chris from Alpha dreams said that it´s made by him and that it´s just concentrated Alfa Maschio ...

http://pheromone-forum.com/showthread.php?tid=124037

(03-06-2016 7:36 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Except they're definitely not the same. I've been well aware of this information for years, and unfortunately, despite what Chris says, it's not correct. If this is what Mark was talking about (which I don't think it is), then old MAG is still nowhere to be found. It would seem a little senseless for Mark not to reveal information that's already known to many of us. I don't think this is what he's alluding to.

Alright, since it appears that Chris no longer considers it confidential, he is the one that told me that he manufactured MAG for Luv Essentials and that it was the exact same product as Alpha Maschio, except he made the MAG a little stronger for them, so he couldn't understand why it didn't get better reviews.

It is entirely possible though that the guys from Luv Essentials had some additional molecule(s) that they added to MAG after receiving it.

(03-06-2016 7:49 PM)mark-in-dallas Wrote:  

(03-06-2016 7:36 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Except they're definitely not the same. I've been well aware of this information for years, and unfortunately, despite what Chris says, it's not correct. If this is what Mark was talking about (which I don't think it is), then old MAG is still nowhere to be found. It would seem a little senseless for Mark not to reveal information that's already known to many of us. I don't think this is what he's alluding to.

Alright, since it appears that Chris no longer considers it confidential, he is the one that told me that he manufactured MAG for Luv Essentials and that it was the exact same product as Alpha Maschio, except he made the MAG a little stronger for them, so he couldn't understand why it didn't get better reviews.

It is entirely possible though that the guys from Luv Essentials had some additional molecule(s) that they added to MAG after receiving it.

If a blend is well-balanced, making it a little stronger can completely throw off this balance. I'm assuming he added Androstadienone in an attempt to buffer this added strength, resulting in a mix that fell short of its predecessor. Never underestimate the power of one or two components to completely destroy a blend!

Again, the depression issue. Anyone gotten depression from MAG? Otherwise we would have to go back to the assumption that it is a novel mix...

From the link I posted earlier

Contains 8 optimized pheromones to give you maximum potency and allure.
Partial Ingredients: Androstadienone, androstenone, androstanone, alpha -androstenol
* All ingredients are not listed to protect our formula from being duplicated.

(03-06-2016 8:01 PM)Blacky Chan Wrote:  From the link I posted earlier

Contains 8 optimized pheromones to give you maximum potency and allure.
artial Ingredients: Androstadienone, androstenone, androstanone, alpha -androstenol
* All ingredients are not listed to protect our formula from being duplicated.

This is very helpful. Still, slightly increasing the potency of an already potent and well-balanced blend can prove detrimental to the effects of a mix. This alone can account for differences between AM and MAG, not accounting for nostalgia and other factors.