(06-19-2016 8:10 AM)greengrenade Wrote:  Maybe you've been wearing it daily. Take a week off. Gel products stay on skin for 2 days.

I've been wearing it for a month and a half almost daily - that may be the issue here. I'll switch back to A314 Rev.32 for a week and return to NA gel when I can be sure the residue is no longer affecting my signature. I was under the impression these gels would never last more than 36 houfrs, and that even this was a major stretch.

I may have been ghosting on more than one occasion, come to think of it. I assumed it may have been something else, now I'm not so sure. I was paying more attention to the reactions of customers (who would have received a lower dose of my signature) than that of my coworkers, who have ignored me on multiple occasions. I initially assumed they had a penchant for drama and this was their way of getting back at me. Ghosting from androstenone may be a factor as well.

Well yeah if 1 pump is 7-8 drops??
2 drops NA is already OD for me, I can't even believe 1 pump is 7-8 drops, how am I going to have to take 1,5 drop with it? Or it must be better buffered

You have to control the amount with various amounts of pressure. The same drop of oil will match like wise with the gel. Just measure the amount.

You could stick a pump in a shot glass and seal it somehow to prevent oxidation. That might work to give even lower doses.

From personal experience the lack of effects seem purely from OD from my testing. I would say it is unthinkable that I'd use 20 ml of oil in 2.5 months but that's how much I used of the gel when I first got it and the effects kept badly diminishing over time. Seems like build up to me and I've had similar issue with sxd from overuse in the past where the returns start to diminish badly from overuse . There were times that even a week long break weren't enough to get the effects back. ..

I now use a tiny glob of NA gel and it works great. Even with a smidgen of the stuff I get a strong whiff of the mones a fair few hours after application.

It's definitely one of the best products I've used but doesn't benefit much from continuous use.

(06-19-2016 1:02 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  That wasn't meant to be ambiguous - when I say I get no effects, I mean I get nnothing attributable to NA gel. My current work mix now acts similar to before I included NAG. The biggest change since then has been the introduction of Tongkat Ali. It's possible my -none production is high enough that I'm ghosting on the smallest possible amounts. If so, it's strange to me that the rest of my workmix is doing fine. TKA may be altering my pheromone production in another way that prevents NA gel from working properly.

Man I used bulk supplements tongkat and that just back fired on me: prostrate inflammation, irritability etc.... might be my age 49. Does make you wonder how much the medium interacts with surface scent and hormone production. Felt like I should be pumping iron to keep it in check.

Gels are funny I get solid reactions and minimal side effects in short term use but feel like they morph rsther than dissapate several hours in...