(01-25-2013 1:56 PM)Fly So Hi Wrote:  Oh I see. I think the crystalised neno + light reflections gave me the impression that there was some sort of liquid in the vial.

No liquid, must be the shine. I don't know if this will help, but:

It does. Exactly what you said, is the shine.

Thanks!

Alot of my potion I work in drops,


15 ml bottle with 50 Monolaurin pellets and 5ml of P.A. (to start with).
50 Monolaurin pellets = 2.562 mg

I have a shaker (wood sander) so the Dissolving of the pellets is done in about 30 minutes. Moving bottle around in boiling water quicken the process and clears the air bubbles and smaller pieces.

With a 10 ml syringe pick up the 5 ml of Monolaurin out the the bottle and add 5 ml of P.A., bringing the total to 10 ml.

50 Monolaurin Pellets ÷ 500 drops 10 ml, (I get 50 drops per ml, your's maybe differance) = 0.1 or 1/10 of a Pellet per drop.

10 drops = 1 Pellet
5 drops = 1/2 Pellet
And so on, and so on

Working out of vails, most of my formulas are a 50 drops based formula. 5 drops out of 50 (10%) give me 4 hours of working time. I do notice a blast about round the two hour mark. Still needs work and some fine tuning.

P.S.
For the Newbies, Monolaurin is all about diffusion. A couple of notes: I can take on alot more pheromone with monolaurin. The diffusion seems to be a lot more slower and even with Monolaurin. With DPG, I could never go about 0.01 with Alpha-THDOC. I did 0.1 yesterday and head was fine.

Hey, great thread. I am still new to mones and have not tried any of this yet, but I noticed a few pages back someone asked if there was a way to prevent the mones from absorbing into the skin, and I think the answer might be Cyclomethicone. It is a liquid silicone that supposedly has molecules too large to enter the skin, but it dissolves into the air, much like alcohol, and I believe it is used in Alpha Dreams products, like Alfa Maschio.
It can be purchased through amazon, here is a link.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Chemistry-Stor...omethicone
I am not sure if this would work, it is more of a question to those more knowledgeable than myself on this subject.

Hey guys,

some questions because the link on the first page is disabled.

I soluted my delta-none (with fillers) in etoh. The alcohol isn't clear anymore and on the ground of the bottle is powder. Is this powder the fillers? Can I now skim the alcohol with a pipette and only have pure delta-none then?

No one?

(07-11-2015 6:36 AM)Vincent_Vega Wrote:  Hey guys,

some questions because the link on the first page is disabled.

I soluted my delta-none (with fillers) in etoh. The alcohol isn't clear anymore and on the ground of the bottle is powder. Is this powder the fillers? Can I now skim the alcohol with a pipette and only have pure delta-none then?

The fact that it's a powder tells us nothing. It could be the fillers just as well as it could be the delta-none. To confirm, you could try filtering out that powder and testing what's left. If you get any notable effects, it's likely you were correct.

I'm assuming this is delta-2-Androstenone, yes? A very interesting molecule - be sure to report back on your results! A D2A thread would be much-welcomed here.

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Delta-2-and...drostenone


Without knowing much about the fillers used here:

The bottom white sediment is most likely the chalky binder crap that makes a tablet a tablet or fills space in a capsule. You can discard this part.

The delta none dissolves in the alcohol along with everything else that is alcohol soluble in the powder. What does not dissolve into solution falls to the bottom.

The cloud is particulate clutter that has not settled yet. You will need to let it sit longer or use mechanical filtration to clear it up.

You can use a micron filter, centrifuge, or you can macgyver it using an unbleached coffee filter and a funnel.

Note how much alcohol you used versus how much powder dissolved.

IME I did not get much from delta 2 other than possible weak social and maybe some Androstenone buffering. I would be interested in reading your results after you take it out a few times.

don't know if it fits into this thread but I've had the following thought

the assumption is that people produce pheromones naturally that have a positive impact.
From what I've read a major place of production is in the armpits *

If the naturally produced pheromones in the armpit are beneficial,

maybe it would help to apply some sort of substance that would increase diffusion (the same way that there are substances in a perfume that help diffusion)

One idea might be to work out, wash and put DPG onto the skin of the armpits.**

The idea would be to 'help' the pheromones in the armpit diffuse


*
there were also suggestions only to wash but not to use deodorant.
My personal hypothesis is that the smell of the armpits is dependent on the composition of the bacterial flora. If I don't use deodorant for several days but shower in the morning, it doesn't take long until my armpits smell (badly)
Even if I do use deodorant after that it takes a few days to get back to the state before.
If I use deodorant regularly (even if just a little) I don't have the bad smell.
My hypothesis is that the deodorant creates adverse conditions for certain kind of bacteria, and other kinds then spread and stay on the skin,even if deodorant is not used for a while. (and the opposite would happen if no deodorant is used)

Different kinds of bacteria would break down mones differently.


**
the question however would be if DPG is an ideal agent, (does it kill certain kinds of bacteria/create adverse conditions for them?)
Perhaps there are other diffusion agents (such as the ones used in St ealth Diffusion (or I've also read about silicone)
On the other hand, maybe if a person uses deodorant anyway, DPG does not significantly change the bacterial flora.

So maybe it is worth trying to use deodorant as usual, and have a smell that is subjectively pleasant/acceptable and also to use a diffusion agent like DPG

***
Perhaps scented deodorants (of brand perfume makers, e.g. Cool Water Deodorant) carry diffusion agents? (it would make sense, since people probably want to enjoy the brand perfume (if they don't notice it, they might be disappointed)

****
another variable might be shaving/not shaving under the armpit.
If none (for example from products carrying none,such as Ammo) attaches itself to hair and is difficult to remove,
maybe likewise pheromones such as none are present in the hair under the armpits and a diffusion agent might help.


Again, all those are only ideas at this stage.

If it works it would definitely be a candidate for 'Poor Man's James Bond' however "

I think the best thing to try would be AO Biome probiotic mist. It contains bacteria that metabolize the ammonia that causes BO but does not otherwise alter the bacterial flora that gives rise to natural pheromones. Then you don't have to use deodorant because there's no BO smell, just natural mones.

I haven't tried it yet, though.