Hi everyone,

I'm referring to mones which help you close easily, either #'s , kisses, or sex.

I'm not talking about just endless friendliness and chattiness. They don't count.

These can be mones which help you to seduce better, or mones which help women to seduce YOU!

It doesn't matter how it happens. This thread is about CLOSING.

Here's my top 3 in no particular order.

1. Nude Alpha -- it's amazing how many women THROW their numbers my way.. Number closing is a joke. Just don't make the mistake of getting too clingy too soon and you'll advance.. This is the hard part. You have to be patient somewhat.

2. AM -- number closed several women this way.. It seems to up aggressiveness and pickup game, and overall sense of confidence. You need to be on the attack however. Women generally expect the AM man to lead.

3. Wolf -- May not of got me seen as a lover, but it got me the #.. Seems natural to # close women.. Problem is its hard to say if they are thinking of you as a potential mate. May get you great female friends or business partners.



Now, YOUR TURN.

dsouza

Top Three for a one nighter? Hmmm... My 2 cents below and they include some underrated products. I really liked products like Aqua Vitae but they are just to inconsistent for me. On some women they run away, others when AV hits it hits like a freight train. Below are the most consistent products for me, that have worked on more than one occasion with different women.

Wanted Man- It is advertised as having just androstenone and androsterone but I swear there is something else in it. I get a great ~none swagger from it and any women in my viscinity get turned on. Before I got married this worked very well for me to get a woman home (or to the back seat of my car in the parking lot). Either solo or combined with Perfect Match. It makes you a target for some alpha guys but women are like Velcro.

Perfect Match- Comfort and disinhibition in a bottle. Makes everyone happy, laid back and less likely to be shy. Pretty sure there is at least some androstedienone in this but it is amazing how this can help women feel comfortable and happy and ready for anything. Not sure what, but something in this has a serious affect on some women. They get amazingly worked up and ready for sex. Either alone or combined with Wanted Man. When combined with Wanted Man the sex is not only great but takes on a more emotional depth. Can be a good thing but not if you ONLY want a one nighter.

Alpha Treasures- A SEXUAL alpha and the only one I have only used while married. I keep saying that I feel like a cross between Elan Musk and James Bond when I wear this. I'm the smooth, rich guy who doesn't care about anything. I'm the 'Most Interesting Man in the World' when I wear this and everyone else knows it too. Guys want to be on my team and women love me. Not for someone who can't start a conversation. If you have the balls to talk to someone, they will do the rest. All you have to do is open them. I have to be careful about who I wear this around because I've been propositioned while wearing this around women my wife knows. Even if you believe that because I'm married my reports don't count, try this. If you have any game at all it has potential to take you far. This is the rare product that can take you from the boardroom to the bedroom very easily.

Oh dsouza you sure know how to stir up a thread! Lol!

I have say I'm very interested in Alpha Treasures by the way.

1)Dionysos (too quick, too easy!)

2)Taboo (easy access)

3)NA (something special about this as I'm still learning, but A LOT of women in my neighborhood are just coming up to me, touching me, and expressing their attraction me, and honestly, it's to the point where I KNOW I can get the numbers with very little effort. The next day it's another and another. NA is what I've been wearing mostly in my neighborhood.

Snoopyace ,

You really have both me and V-nice excited about AT.

You know as I write this I have a bottle of captain and a sample of AT on the way..

Looking forward to giving them a go.

BTW guys, although I state AM as one of my best pickup mones, I have to admit ever since I started kettlebell training and incorporating red meat into my diet again I seem to be intimidating the hell out of women with it LOL! I get the famous EROX they look at me for a split second then go about their own business. I find it very hard to have any confidence when women don't give me IOI or seem initimidated. It may be working on some black women or women built with extremely big butts and tits but I'm not after strippers or prostitutes.. For the remaining beauties AM seems to be driving them away. I can't even get them to walk near me or maintain eye contact unlike last week before I started Kettlebell training and meat.

AM may be dropping out of my top 3 if AT is as good as it seems.

dsouza

(07-21-2015 5:29 PM)dsouza Wrote:  Snoopyace ,

You really have both me and V-nice excited about AT.

You know as I write this I have a bottle of captain and a sample of AT on the way..

Looking forward to giving them a go.

BTW guys, although I state AM as one of my best pickup mones, I have to admit ever since I started kettlebell training and incorporating red meat into my diet again I seem to be intimidating the hell out of women with it LOL! I get the famous EROX they look at me for a split second then go about their own business. I find it very hard to have any confidence when women don't give me IOI or seem initimidated. It may be working on some black women or women built with extremely big butts and tits but I'm not after strippers or prostitutes.. For the remaining beauties AM seems to be driving them away. I can't even get them to walk near me or maintain eye contact unlike last week before I started Kettlebell training and meat.

AM may be dropping out of my top 3 if AT is as good as it seems.

dsouza

So it is just now not working for because you have started a kettle ball training and eating red meat?

Do you take breaks from your products periodically?

I would say I have had the most success in anything friendly and social. When I went through my bottle of THU I sure did get a shit ton of numbers…I mean a shit ton. I probably only hung out with a few of them after the close though to be honest. That can be attributed to a number of variables of which I cannot exactly qualify which are the most important. Also, wearing Xist around the town for a while has gotten me some good closes and interacting with the same repeat people in a social setting has helped give me some social leverage.

(07-21-2015 5:39 PM)SeekingSuccess Wrote:  So it is just now not working for because you have started a kettle ball training and eating red meat?

Do you take breaks from your products periodically?

I would say I have had the most success in anything friendly and social. When I went through my bottle of THU I sure did get a shit ton of numbers…I mean a shit ton. I probably only hung out with a few of them after the close though to be honest. That can be attributed to a number of variables of which I cannot exactly qualify which are the most important. Also, wearing Xist around the town for a while has gotten me some good closes and interacting with the same repeat people in a social setting has helped give me some social leverage.

Yes 2 sprays AM or 20 mcg none might be a bit much for a red meat eater doing heavy lifting unless strictly a bar/nightclub environment .

YMMV
dsouza

I'm noticing l2k v1 is not making the CLOSERS list.

Honestly I think its one of the worst products to close with.. Conversations always drifts off in directions that are unpredicatable. Unless your in a ONS environment like a bar, party, or nightclub for 5-6 hrs or a very long date 5-6 hrs it really doesn't provide enough aggressive MOTIVATION to carry out a seduction , or CLOSING. Way too LAID BACK.

Very good for attraction, friendliness, and women contributing to a conversation, but damn well this one seems hard to get tangible results.

For this reason I notice even people who say l2k v1 is one of the preferred products for out and around, seem to have not listed it as a top 3 contender on the CLOSERS list.

dsouza

1. LIIK v1
2. New Pheromone Additive
3. A314

Full close, not number.

(07-25-2015 2:25 AM)Six Wrote:  1. LIIK v1
2. New Pheromone Additive
3. A314

Full close, not number.

Did closing with l2k v1 happen on a traditional date (short duration 1-3 hrs) or in a bar/nightclub/party setting? How long were you with the woman before the close and was it a gradual buildup through dating previously, or a quick one night hookup?

I'm glad l2k v1 worked for you. I find the EST gets to me. How old are you and what is your nationality?

dsouza

Parties and travelling. I don't really do dates and I'm not counting any hits on girlfriends.

Early 20s, Asian.

What makes you think there's est in LIIK? I wasn't aware of this.