(06-07-2016 1:22 PM)NP17 Wrote:  Yes I like Kane as a mix but an unscented gel with androstenone is just a huge flaw. I won't be getting anything else like it.

No offense but I thinks that's a tucked up. I'm pretty sure you had a huge impact on Gary's decision to come out with these products. I know damn well I would have never looked at the gay section of lal or got my Kane samples if it weren't for your posts. Shame on you.

I wander if Garry could scent the gels using the technology that they
use to make scented after shave gel or Balm

(06-18-2016 9:28 PM)excalibur Wrote:  I wander if Garry could scent the gels using the technology that they
use to make scented after shave gel or Balm

I've had the same idea, and I've mentioned such to Garry on multiple occasions. I'm yet to hear anything back.

If you can add phero-molecuels to a gel-Matrix, than of course you can add arome-chemicals.

(06-18-2016 7:17 PM)kingtut savage Wrote:  No offense but I thinks that's a tucked up. I'm pretty sure you had a huge impact on Gary's decision to come out with these products. I know damn well I would have never looked at the gay section of lal or got my Kane samples if it weren't for your posts. Shame on you.

Well I'm sorry I "tucked up," but Garry has said that there are multiple people using his gay products because they want a super aggressive alpha. This product has been in development for quite a while. I've always been honest about my opinions and experiences with Kane. One thing that I've posted about multiple times is the issue with the smell. The reason I have concluded that I won't be buying any unscented gels with androstenone is based on a long series of failed experiments to properly cover the scent. It just doesn't work.

As for making it scented, Garry told me in an e-mail that he has tried to do this, but he can't add any oil because it would destabilize the gel matrix.

Everytime I wear OD, this same kid complains of a smell of piss when I'm around him. Recently, I had covered with Aventus and he commented on a florally smell of piss, sorta like pissing on a urinal cake. This has happened at least 3 times I remember, first time with the urinal cake reference. He hasn't connected it to me yet.

I hear you, NP17, but if Venom has any edge over OD, I'm in. I can't knock one product just because it has an adverse reaction with one dude. OD might not project like an oil, but the levels of alpha mones get me respect and keep me focused.

Yes the respect is undeniable from Kane. I'm sure OD is a nice product too. But how many people do you think are put off by the smell but don't say anything because they're not obnoxious like that kid?

It's sad because I really like the effects of Kane. He should use the carrier that thundr uses in TUSC. I know that Garry is knowledgeable about this because he's mentioned it in emails to me.

Hi NP
How much of Kane were you wearing when people complained
Of smell

Cheers
E

(06-19-2016 10:12 PM)excalibur Wrote:  Hi NP
How much of Kane were you wearing when people complained
Of smell

Cheers
E

Even tiny amounts, like the size of a baby pea. I've been over this all before. The cover wears off in 6-8 hours, but the gel keeps lasting up to 24 hours. It can even smell through the cover. Maybe it's just an issue that all androstenone-containing mixes have. Honestly I've been avoiding all of them recently just for the sake of human decency and hygiene.

AV is notorious for the piss/ammonia odor. But at least a good cologne will cover it.