(08-13-2015 7:24 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Yet this is true for any scent, and it need not even be a fragrance. The smell of sweat can assist in the imprinting process. I'm not sure what this post has to do with what's being discussed though.

Yeah. The whole point of an imprinting pheromone products is that the pheromones do the imprinting. And scent will be there, whether it's the Voodoo scent, your own cologne or simply the way your body smells.

(08-13-2015 4:30 PM)D'man Wrote:  The Voodoo scent, a soapy type smell bothered me and that prevented me from any further testing after 1 try. As far as testing I used it at 3 euro drops mid 30's woman wouldn't shutup and was hanging on my every word.

I also wish it was available in an unscented version.

Fortunately, it is apparently also available in an unscented version, as Ekscentra said. But also, isn't 1 try giving up too early? Maybe you'd get used to the smell at least enough to not be bothered by it anymore. It does sound like you got a good result from it.

Okay I used about 8 drops smears all over my forearms. If I put it on my neck or chest the smell is too much but on my arms it doesn't bother me at all. Now tonight I saw some blatent hits. Plenty of random women smiling and when I spoke to a few they were seemingly in a trance with their eyes glazed and very strongly holding eye contact. Very flirty behavior also from women friends that were in the group at the bar also. There was one girl though who is usually really friendly that seemed repelled but besides that everyone else was loving me big time. This is some good juice for sure. Just the fragrance I am not a fan of at all.

Stacked voodoo, AV and some NNPA yesterday. I was speaking to a much older woman(60s) and her daughter (30-40s). At first, the older woman was on my left hand side, and the younger on her left. I made eye contact with the younger and she immediately switched position to closer to me, almost touching and all of a sudden smiling ear to ear and attentive.
I asked a random if I could assist her and she became stupefied. Jaw dropped and took a second to collect herself before responding.
Spoke to a couple about a product. At first, the female stood with her arms crossed, not only uninterested, but aggitated, seemingly about just being there, while the man asked me question after question. Gave one positive remark about the females question and from then on, the woman became engaged and committed to the interaction. It was as if a switch had been flipped.
I asked if two young woman needed help with anything. Solid 7's. The one interested just starts chuckling and asks for a minute. I check in with her few minutes later and she becomes completely open. Almost taking the engagement to a more personal place. I asked genera questions and she gives long drawn out stories and responses about things not related to her possible purchase. I leave her again in favor of airs qualified associate. I check in with her again, offer a second voice validation of "good choice" and she starts laughing again and smiling ear to ear.

All in all, my first real notable in your face IOIs.

I've been testing Voodoo for only a couple of days, so these observations are based on very limited testing. But nonetheless, I feel I have found some interesting features of this product.

Ok, first of all, a couple of drops is enough. If you use more, the scent will chase people away. It's too strong for that. But... it works well in a low dose.

I can't tell you exactly how many drops I use, since I use the Euro dropper a bit differently in order to prevent spilling. Which with Voodoo happens very easily because of the type of liquid it is. I don't know how to say it in English, but it's the opposite of thick/oily.

I put my finger firmly on top of the bottle, turn it around for a few moments, put it back up and I use what's on my finger. My dose is six of those, mainly applied to my neck and the residue I rub on my wrists. And I run my hand through my hair, so some pheromones will be there as well.

What I first noticed was were the social elements. Women tend to like to feel comfortable with someone and feel some sort of connection in the context of attraction. And Voodoo does both. It creates a social environment with attraction blended in.

It's far more subtle than Bad Wolf (obviously). The difference is, BW hits quick and hard, with very heavy attraction noticeable right away. Where I find it limiting is that it lacks the comfort side that creates a context in which the attraction is accepted better. You need to do that yourself, which is fine, but I'm finding that with Voodoo, everything runs a lot more smoothly.

And it's subtle as opposed to the quick and hard influence of BW in the sense that it's like it smoothly surrounds you in a low-key manner. This is part of what makes is so effective I think. It doesn't jar people into an intense response, it's very natural.

The responses I've noticed are pretty consistent. General interest, friendliness, openness, them being more relaxed and themselves, while also feeling an attraction that starts out subtle and then grows. I like how it's within the range of what people are used to, which makes it so it doesn't get any intimidation- or fear-effects.

Responses from guys are ok. Friendly. Social.

The self-effects are hard to describe in detail. It's just an experience of feeling good. I would like it for that effect alone. It's not dominant and strong like BW, but more at a point where you really don't care about all those things. Don't get me wrong, I still love BW, but Voodoo is awesome too.

I will need to use it for a much longer period of time to be able to report more solid conclusions. But the initial impression is good.

Voodoo is wonderful!

Ok, first of all, reading my posts it might seem like I'm promoting products for LAL. That is not the case. I'm pretty new to pheromones and I've only bought from LAL. And I like what I've tested so far. I like sharing and will report honestly. Whether it's positive or negative. And so far, every product I've tested solo so far (BW and VD) are products that get me great results.

Ok, so I've been trying VD for a while longer now and see a consistent pattern in responses.

First of all, in a short interaction, it has some effect. Subtle but it's there. I'm talking about 1 minute interactions, like when you're at the checkout counter.

This gets me to something else that occurred to me. A lot of people are probably getting more hits than that they're aware of. It depends on your ability to read people. A lot of hits are subtle and you know that you have moments that you're wildly attracted to someone but hide it as well as you can, right? Well, women do the same thing.

Anyway, that's actually a separate topic but relevant here for a moment.

So I'm noticing a lot of subtle reactions in the first minute of exposure. But where VD really shines is if you talk to someone longer. It builds up, both in the social as well as the sexual area. It works it's magic over time and it can get quite overt. One thing I noticed is girls and women wanting to stand closer, closing in, flirting more and more and getting really comfortable. It makes it all very natural.

They want to be near you. This effect generally kicks in after a couple of minutes in my experience. And increases. After half an hour, I've noticed that they sometimes have trouble leaving when it's time to leave.

Also, this one is great for girls/women you meet regularly. The effect builds up each time.

It's a consistent product. I'm still experimenting with the dosing. This is where the scent is a problem. It's a pretty heavy scent and if you use too much, you have a cologne cloud around you that is off-putting. Except when you spread the dose out over several application points.

I like to apply mones to primarily my neck. It's just a matter of personal preference. Today I tried 9 drops of VD and had to apply a good amount of that on my wrists instead of my neck alone. And then it still took hours before the scent diminished enough. Got some good hits after that though.

The scent itself is something I didn't like at first. But I've grown to like it in small doses. When I use my regular testing dose of 6 fingers (see my sig below for an explanation), it's ok. But VD works better when you use a bit more.

Also, the scent is not really compatible with younger guys. A 20 year old wearing this just doesn't fit imo. I'm 34 and that would be about the minimum age at which I would recommend it.

Had I known you can request any product in an unscented version, I would have gone with that. I prefer to use my own cologne.

In summary: VD is a deceivingly powerful product. It might not seem like that at first because it starts out subtle and builds up over time. So you will have to be able to interact for at least 10-15 minutes and have at least ok social skills. But if you do, you will see the progression of effects happening.

Oh and before I forget, the self-effects. They're nice. Difficult to describe specifically. It has various ways of making you feel good. I would wear it for the self-effects alone (the self-effects are to me at least as important as the effects on others).

I have to disagree on the scent bit. While most men won't be able to pull it off, the scent worked great for me at 19. If you're used to wearing oud/patchouli-based "hippie" style scents, you can pull this one off with no greater difficulty. It all depends on what you're used to wearing, and how secure you feel wearing a scent. You can wear ultra-feminine women's fragrances as long as you're carrying yourself in a confident manner. The scent isn't what matters, nor one's age - it all comes down to how you wear it.