(05-22-2018 4:44 AM)stefdude Wrote:  I also really liked the scent (the original more than the later), it was perhaps the most addicting scent I've smelled, that could be partly because of the selfies.

I've tried Voodoo twice already, and I really like the scent it comes in. I find it quite addictive myself, and could only wish I had tried the first batch, as it sounds like the scent was even better than what it is now. But still, I really like it, and so far everyone around me has commented on how good it smells. Haven't noticed any reactions from the mones yet, maybe because they are subtle and I'm a bit spoiled when it comes to the blatant hit-generating products. But I will keep testing it and see if I finally notice the subtleties from those affected.

Alright... after the first test of VD, I was super convinced, and definitely about to buy. After a couple more days of testing, I think I'm becoming exponentially less and less of a fan.

Yesterday:

I applied two sample vile dabs to the wrists, and one to the back of my neck. The whole day I increasingly felt extreme fatigue to the point of physical total exhaustion. I thought I was coming down with the flu or mono or something, that's how severe it was. I wasn't sure if VD was the cause. I took a bunch of vitamins and stuff and I felt better. I noticed no hits at all the whole day. I felt no selfies until the end of the day when, you guessed it, super depression selfies hit. No bueno.

Today:

I woke up in the morning feeling fine physically and mentally. I slept well, and got a pretty solid 7.5 hours of sleep. I decided to try VD+BW again. Immediately felt the drowsy, sleepy feeling that I felt yesterday, just much less intense as soon as I applied 4 sample vile dabs to wrists. I added BW, 2 drops to the neck. It made me feel sharp and happy.

Didn't have any major hits today. I managed to spill over half of my fucking sample if VD so I think I'm just gonna order a full bottle on Friday because I need to test it more solo. I think I just need to apply it at night.

Selfies have been all over the place today from VD. I know what the BW selfies give me; the VD selfies seemed to overpower BW today. VD makes me extremely sentimental. A few pages back, someone mentioned that it seems to deepen any emotion you feel; I agree with this. It's not just extremely depressing selfies, just extremely emotional, and if I think anything even remotely negative, it spirals into a super depressing feeling. I've noticed that if I'm feeling a depressed self effect, and then I get around someone I like or someone in a good mood, my mood shifts too. Interesting.

Today I sat with a female friend for a bit at work. Sat much closer to her than usual, and made super direct, deep, loving eye contact with her. I think VD was hitting me far more than it was hitting her. Is this happening to anyone else? It made her look so beautiful to me, and I had this urge to kiss her (I didn't, obviously) like she was someone I was in love with for that moment. It was really intense.

Also, over the past two days, I find myself thinking about women that I like whom I've interacted with while wearing VD. It's like VD is affecting me the way it's supposed to affect them. Idunno, I'm not sure how I feel about this stuff still. More testing needed, but sadly, most of my sample is gone. Sigh. Gotta invest in a bottle perhaps.

Yeah it affects both the wearer and those inhaling. It makes us feel like a relationship has been established and we’ve known each other for a long time, on both ends.

Yeah, it gets super intense. I read this entire thread, and a few people have mentioned that they experience this as well, but they are also seeing the hits on others in a way that I'm just not seeing. I feel like VD is only working on me; I think it's a really unfocused mix, meaning that, as others have mentioned, it doesn't point back to me, so perhaps it's affecting others' interactions with other people.

Every time I've used it in a group setting, everyone becomes happy and giddy, but that doesn't necessarily get related back to me. I think this is partially my fault for not having figured out how to steer it properly yet. I'm going to test it again on Friday when I go out with a group of very attractive girls, (24-28) and see what happens.

Thinking back on yesterday, I think... that I actually kind of like the very sentimental lovey-dovey selfies it gave me. I felt so connected to everyone I spoke to. I really enjoyed that aspect of it; and underneath that is a very Don Juan-esque smoothness to it; extremely seductive. It's been hard to focus on driving that part of it more when I'm overwhelmed with the self-effects.

Corveus, you have a similar take on Voodoo as me. It's a very powerful product. On some days it works great and it boost my mood, but on other days it makes me feel miserable. I "fell in love" with like 5 different girls during a week of using it once and I don't think I've ever been that depressed around girl stuff before. It just wasn't sustainable. Only a couple of those girls felt the same. Voodoo might inspire you to marry a stripper on a whim. It really is the Don Juan of pheromones and he was constantly depressed. Great product for what it's intended to do, but I much prefer NA or TUSC as imprinting products. I don't get the same negative selfies from those. I have no idea what Garry put into Voodoo, but it's some potent shit.

Well, I'm glad it's not just me. I have never used something that felt completely different each time I used it. This is so bizarre. Part of me feels like I just haven't figured it out entirely... so, for better or for worse, I just ordered a bottle from Garry, and asked for a sample of NA. I still don't recall seeing any reports of actual significant fallout being created from this mix, and I'd really like to figure that part out.

I also have a theory about how physiological factors like hydration, vitamin deficiencies, and especially how recently and frequently one has beat off before applying can drastically impact the perceived self effects (and effects on others) of mones. I'm working on refining that and figuring out how to test it using a journal (not super scientific, but I think I'm on to something.)