I've briefly looked over this thread and I am seeing a common problem in terms of how people are reviewing this product. I think it's important to remember that with some LAL products, they are more like a scalpel compared to other vendors. They have finely tuned products which work - but sometimes you also need to change your approach.

I've tested Voodoo and I find it almost hypnotic - the effects on women are there... but you need to do more than just have a basic conversation like you do with your regular female friends. Most of what I ended up reading was about your regular "woman smiled at me" or "started a conversation" type reports. Those are strong hits... but what did you do to steer the conversation? Did you change your approach? Did you notice that she went quiet for a little while? What was she thinking about? The list goes on.

I'm not sure what happened to the hardcore testers of pheromones, but I know we used to go DEEP not so long ago. It made the top 5 on my romantic attraction products on my new site (which you can PM me about if you're interested, I am not going to post links on Mark's site).

This is not an attack on anyone or anything personal - just an observation I have had the last few times I have visited the forums.

I wonder if some products -- especially those known for their subtlety -- need months if not years of testing before there can be a reliable collective judgment. For a long time, Bad Wolf reviews were all over the map, and there seemed to be a general sense of disappointment in the product. That sentiment seems to be changing (I think) now that people are learning to use it.

I've begun retesting BW now and this time its going over my armpits that is to say that since i don't use deoderant and haven't had to now for a period of 2 months (thanks to the lecithin i take), I'm testing put how it works here since diffusion is much better in thus spot. I tend to pherobomb now though, and it helps me to identify each effect based on the solo testing i did on those same products. Even trying new products on, i can notice the differences that appear in behaviour with the change, but then i also try them out solo as well. Like one good combo i have found is P74+P75+P79 and Voodoo as my base. P74 for empathy, P75 for look at me, P79 to amp up what they feel (if you set the environment right its golden), and then Voodoo for the intrigue and mystery as well as the imprinting factor. I wanna see who else gets effects from this.

P74 1 spray each@12.5mcg
P75 2 sprays each@2.5mcg
P79 1 spray each@12.5mcg
6 drops Voodoo

(10-17-2015 9:19 AM)Futureman Wrote:  I wonder if some products -- especially those known for their subtlety -- need months if not years of testing before there can be a reliable collective judgment. For a long time, Bad Wolf reviews were all over the map, and there seemed to be a general sense of disappointment in the product. That sentiment seems to be changing (I think) now that people are learning to use it.

This.

I really like bw and found it to be a fantastic product. This is one of those products that do need to be driven and I think some people were just expecting to weat it and let it do the work. I'm not the most alpha person out there but the reason it works so well and so easily for me is because I am a flirt and I love to be outgoing which is what helps make this product shine for me. But it is one hell of an alpha vibe, which will be tempered with being friendly and outgoing. I'm happy to see that people are beginning to realize that there's more to this mix.

After reading the past couple of pages, I may retest Voodoo. A while ago, it was really hard to work with due to negative self-effects. Recently, I've been trying it out again and I saw positive responses, but I didn't equate it to being from any help from VD from previous experiences...it may be time to just retest and really let it shine. I'll definitely use P75 or something that'll focus the attention on me

Frankly, the designer (vendor) owes it to the customer to really break the product down and describe EXACTLY what it is - in their own observational capacity - the product does. If it has been conceived of in theory, then tested in alpha and beta, and released - it must satisfactorily accomplish the goal in a specific, direct way.

Instead, they formulate, write a blurb, give a general use for the product, and say "Have at it!" It is fun to figure products out, but come on, throw me a frickin' bone, here! I want to know how THEY apply it, WHO their target it, and see THEIR notes and observations!

(10-17-2015 2:39 PM)RTBoss Wrote:  Frankly, the designer (vendor) owes it to the customer to really break the product down and describe EXACTLY what it is - in their own observational capacity - the product does. If it has been conceived of in theory, then tested in alpha and beta, and released - it must satisfactorily accomplish the goal in a specific, direct way.

Instead, they formulate, write a blurb, give a general use for the product, and say "Have at it!" It is fun to figure products out, but come on, throw me a frickin' bone, here! I want to know how THEY apply it, WHO their target it, and see THEIR notes and observations!

The cryptic shit needs to go out the window. if you are selling a product from anywhere of $30-$149...advice on how to use it should be part of the deal. Pretty simple

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