(01-22-2013 4:49 AM)LL21 Wrote:  You definitely should start a journal, you have great starter mones that you can test and try.

Its crazy to think that everything from healthy eating, exercising and even masturbation can effect the pheromone signature that you have. I had the exact same problem that you did. You read some of the great reviews from other people and you hope for a similar effect. The pheremones really are just an extension of yourself.

Try to use mones with a scientific approach and ignore what you think will happen and what you want to happen. Try using 1 product at a time until you find your sweet spot. Also if your still having problems with downloading mp3's I can try to help you out.

Try testing out a pheremone a week to see if you can get the hang of it. One time when I wore AV I went to my friends house but only his Mother and sisters were there and they didn't seem to be affected at all but that same day I had a respect hit from a gas station attendant and a lady do a double take at me and tell me my freckles are so cute.

When you try the pheremones describe the impression that you get from the smell of each one. The self effects.
I don't know if you know this yet but Androstadienone is a comfort/ bonding pheremone and a lot of guys depression and crazy ass dreams if they leave it one. It doesn't have that effect on me from the testing I've had thus far.

Yes, I will definitely try to start up a journal when I'm ready. Hopefully I'll be able to keep track of my results and also get some feedback from the members here for improvement each time.

And you're right, I'm sure scientifically, our bodies are constantly changing and even things you mentioned like working out, what we eat that day, how much liquids we intake, etc. can affect our phero signature.

Well, about testing, the thing is, the way I ordered the products, I got them all about 5-6 days apart. I got AV first, so I tested it at 1 drop, then 2, and 3. When I got Glace, I tried Glace by itself at 3 sprays, then with AV at 3, 4, 5 and 6 sprays. And Androstadienone, I only tried it at 3 drops (the 5mg 10mL version) with AV and Glace.

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(01-23-2013 4:24 AM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  yes thank you yj404, i am well, except i have a slight problem with your avatar, i really like the look of the girl she inspires my imagination i think she would be a low maintenance model ie cheap to feed, plz send me over a real one like her and i will give you reps

hahaha....yea i like the way she looks too. Not in real life, but in pictures the low maintenance looking ones are hot..seems like down and dirty. And I will send you a real one like her as soon as I get this daggone thing figured out and get some under my belt first haha....=]

(01-23-2013 3:30 AM)DGamer Wrote:  Lol you haven't seen my journal then, it was a train wreck in the beginning, I saw NOTHING! Definitely start it up


I actually visit Ktown occasionally ^^
Anyhow, the talkative effect that you saw is typical of Glace. Staring at you is probably from AV.

You've already seen results, you just don't believe them yet. If you still don't believe, keep using that combo in the same ratio. Once you believe, start using the products individually to find out the specifics of each (except for Androstadienone , cause that stuff can wreck you if you use it alone)

You'll find other products later on that hit more often and work better with you

haha really? I thought most of the members here had good results! lol....I guess I'm not a rare case haha...but yea, I'm guna have to start a journal soon, but dont fall asleep on me guys if it gets boring hahaha....

Which ktown are you talking about? NY? Cali? Chicago? So you think my friend being extra talkative is the Glace and the looking at me is the AV. But how about Androstadienone? What effects did that one do? I have the 5mg 10mL bottle so I did 3 sprays which should equal 30mcgs right? Hmm...yea I guess given the characteristics of those 2 Pheromones, that makes sense. I think you are right when you say I may have seen some kind of results, no matter how small they may have been, and perhaps not believing it because they weren't significant enough?

I'm thinking of trying either Wolf, Nude Alpha, AM, or New Pheromone Additive...any suggestions on which one may work better for an Asian guy like me attracting asian girls? I'm sure some of those are stronger or about the same as AV right? Of course I will be using any of those with Glace and Andro, so keep that in mind too =)

oh whoops, forgot there were a lot of ktowns. I was talking about Cali.

Androstadienone makes girls very happy/thankful to be around you, check my signature for my observations of multiple mones.

Wolf should be fine, Nude Alpha should be fine

I'd stay away from AM, it's subpar in my eyes

New Pheromone Additive will be either disastrous or amazing, I'd avoid spending money on that early on too. New Pheromone Additive is stronger than AV but more problematic too

(01-23-2013 6:37 AM)DGamer Wrote:  oh whoops, forgot there were a lot of ktowns. I was talking about Cali.

Androstadienone makes girls very happy/thankful to be around you, check my signature for my observations of multiple mones.

Wolf should be fine, Nude Alpha should be fine

I'd stay away from AM, it's subpar in my eyes

New Pheromone Additive will be either disastrous or amazing, I'd avoid spending money on that early on too. New Pheromone Additive is stronger than AV but more problematic too

Oh I see....I've only been to ktown in cali twice in my life so can't say too much about it lol...

Androstadienone makes girls very happy to be around me, and I will check the link at the bottom at your signature and see if I can learn more thanks =)

As per your suggestions, I will stay away from AM and New Pheromone Additive...I had a feeling those two would be too strong. I think for strong -none AV would be enough for me, right?

Perhaps I will try Wolf and Nude Alpha...have you tried either Wolf Alpha or regular NudE? Which versions would you suggest for me to try for Wolf and Nude? Regular or Alphas?

Oh one more thing, have you heard of or had any experience with Hypnotica? Garry has told me before that a lot of ex-Glace users find great results with Hypnotica....any comments on that product?

(01-23-2013 4:32 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Oh I see....I've only been to ktown in cali twice in my life so can't say too much about it lol...

Androstadienone makes girls very happy to be around me, and I will check the link at the bottom at your signature and see if I can learn more thanks =)

As per your suggestions, I will stay away from AM and New Pheromone Additive...I had a feeling those two would be too strong. I think for strong -none AV would be enough for me, right?

Perhaps I will try Wolf and Nude Alpha...have you tried either Wolf Alpha or regular NudE? Which versions would you suggest for me to try for Wolf and Nude? Regular or Alphas?

Oh one more thing, have you heard of or had any experience with Hypnotica? Garry has told me before that a lot of ex-Glace users find great results with Hypnotica....any comments on that product?

Just saw this thread and I would like to suggest laid brand hair paste for men the stuff is unrivaled as it is a heavy comfort attraction product with slight sexual undertone plus they have a buy one get one free offer going on now as long as you email them suggest this and pheromonexs cohesion blend totally awesome stuff and to be a bit on topic I think you could try out nude alpha first.

(01-23-2013 4:48 PM)ryusei Wrote:  Just saw this thread and I would like to suggest laid brand hair paste for men the stuff is unrivaled as it is a heavy comfort attraction product with slight sexual undertone plus they have a buy one get one free offer going on now as long as you email them suggest this and pheromonexs cohesion blend totally awesome stuff and to be a bit on topic I think you could try out nude alpha first.

Ryusei,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I dont wear any hair products because I have a short crew cut since I'm in the military. Don't apply gel, mousse, or anything like that. And what is pheromonexs cohesion blend? Is that a social? sexual? I have AV, Glace, and Andro. Which would I have to replace for cohesion? I heard there was a cohesionxs or something like that too, is that different?

For now, I'm thinking Nude Alpha or Wolf. But I also heard Nude Alpha doesn't really brings results for Asian men....not sure if that's true or not. And I'm not entirely sure about Wolf either....

(01-23-2013 5:18 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Ryusei,

Thanks for the suggestion, but I dont wear any hair products because I have a short crew cut since I'm in the military. Don't apply gel, mousse, or anything like that. And what is pheromonexs cohesion blend? Is that a social? sexual? I have AV, Glace, and Andro. Which would I have to replace for cohesion? I heard there was a cohesionxs or something like that too, is that different?

For now, I'm thinking Nude Alpha or Wolf. But I also heard Nude Alpha doesn't really brings results for Asian men....not sure if that's true or not. And I'm not entirely sure about Wolf either....

Cohesion is comfort with the Androstadienone mentioned by dgamer, its one of the best available imo many many say it actually brings better results than pure Androstadienone , which I can agree to, are you asian? I am chinese myself and actually Nude Alpha does bring results for Asian men, it was actually designed with Asian men in mind if you look at the product description, it works for me anyhow ... You don't need to replace anything for cohesion just add it into the mix, the molecules wont conflict cohesion xs is cohesion, most people here just call it cohesion.

(01-23-2013 6:21 PM)ryusei Wrote:  Cohesion is comfort with the Androstadienone mentioned by dgamer, its one of the best available imo, are you asian? I am chinese myself and actually Nude Alpha does bring results for Asian men, it was actually designed with Asian men in mind if you look at the product description, it works for me anyhow ... You don't need to replace anything for cohesion just add it into the mix, the molecules wont conflict cohesion xs is cohesion, most people here just call it cohesion.

Ohh I see. I understand. For now, I'm going to field test Glace a bit more before I try Cohesion. I have been combining 6 sprays of Glace with 3 drops of Androstadienone (5mg 10mL bottle, so 30 mcg total I think, can you verify this?)...

I will also try Nude Alpha since you said you tried it, and we seem to be in the same ethnic background. How old are you by the way, and what part of the world do you live in? What are your main targets as far as ethnicity goes with women?

I'm beginning to think maybe AV is just too strong, and perhaps that's why I'm not getting much responses? Is this possible? I tried it at 2, 3, and 4 drops on separate days....Do you think that Nude Alpha will bring better results? What can I expect from NA? Like I heard its a Social and Sexual all together....Any particular hits or results you can put here as examples perhaps? Thanks!

(01-23-2013 6:27 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Ohh I see. I understand. For now, I'm going to field test Glace a bit more before I try Cohesion. I have been combining 6 sprays of Glace with 3 drops of Androstadienone (5mg 10mL bottle, so 30 mcg total I think, can you verify this?)...

I will also try Nude Alpha since you said you tried it, and we seem to be in the same ethnic background. How old are you by the way, and what part of the world do you live in? What are your main targets as far as ethnicity goes with women?

I'm beginning to think maybe AV is just too strong, and perhaps that's why I'm not getting much responses? Is this possible? I tried it at 2, 3, and 4 drops on separate days....Do you think that Nude Alpha will bring better results? What can I expect from NA? Like I heard its a Social and Sexual all together....Any particular hits or results you can put here as examples perhaps? Thanks!

A lot of people have said that cohesion gets better results than pure Androstadienone , which I think I can agree to, plus the owner steve is just awesome . I am 29 and I live in Taiwan though I am in the states temporarily for some family business.

For me personally AV gets me strong hits from women 30+, <30 its hit or miss really and for <30 is where Nude Alpha shines because the yougner girls like it better. You could try 2 drops or even 1 drop with glace and Androstadienone , you'll just have to test it really it depends on your personal body chemistry. My main targets are usually Taiwanese people (and NO they are NOT just Chinese with a different passport, and yes I feel strongly about this =p)

Well lets see the first time I wore Nude Alpha EVER, I walked out the door and as I was waiting to cross the street a girl with her bf walked by, the girl couldn't help but keep turning her head to look at me, same thing happened while I was waiting for the bus at a bus station, girls couldnt help me turn their heads/stare at me it proved to me that all this shit works

edit: oh yeah make sure to say you want nude alpha in wolf scent in the comment when you do order it, wolf scent is awesome!

(01-23-2013 6:27 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Ohh I see. I understand. For now, I'm going to field test Glace a bit more before I try Cohesion. I have been combining 6 sprays of Glace with 3 drops of Androstadienone (5mg 10mL bottle, so 30 mcg total I think, can you verify this?)...

I will also try Nude Alpha since you said you tried it, and we seem to be in the same ethnic background. How old are you by the way, and what part of the world do you live in? What are your main targets as far as ethnicity goes with women?

I'm beginning to think maybe AV is just too strong, and perhaps that's why I'm not getting much responses? Is this possible? I tried it at 2, 3, and 4 drops on separate days....Do you think that Nude Alpha will bring better results? What can I expect from NA? Like I heard its a Social and Sexual all together....Any particular hits or results you can put here as examples perhaps? Thanks!

Its good to see ryusei helping you through this as he is pretty well on the money,

also here is another option, use NUDE alone and then you have the option of spicing it up just a tad "if necessary" with a small dab of AV and this will make up for the Androstenone component that you would have obtained if you had ordered NUDE Alpha, i say this because i have used NUDE alone and the attraction hits with it from from the younger women was excellent so good in fact that i used it every day for 2 weeks until i ran out and then i got more in, therefore in my opinion you really can not go wrong with NUDE as it is a great proven social and i found it as friendly as anything.

If you get the NUDE Alpha then you still will be under the influence of AndrostEnone and even though a minor amount it may not be satisfactory because with each drop of NA applied the AndrostEnone content is amped up and this is not exactly what you need if say you need to use 4 drops to obtain the desired social attraction effects for instance, and with just using NUDE you can certainly use 1-5 drops without ghosting at all its a no worry product is NUDE and in my opinion it is under rated....

Myself being on the board of administration of Pherotruth i do not think it prudent to choose one vendors products over another and that is why the admin usually keep our product reps to a minimum however seeing as the subject of LAL products is already tabled i have just commented on my opinions regarding your choices, there are other brand products available that i consider to also be as effective as NUDE and had this post been concerning these then i may have also made comments as the choice of one of these.... meaning that i personally do not favor any one vendor over another...

Once again no matter what the senario you are not going to need a whole lot of added AndrostEnone, and if you do need to heat the NUDE app up just slightly then a slight addition of AV onto your NUDE app is not going to be sufficient to throw the configuration of the NUDE formulation out the window.