(01-25-2013 8:21 AM)yj404 Wrote:  [quote]Tonight, if I go out, I'm thinking decrease AV to 1 drop, Use like 5-6 dabs of the Nude Sample vial I got from Garry, and then put either Glace or Glace+Androstadienone combo. Do you think this is too much?? I still haven't seen the comfort effect that's noticeable with Androstadienone either...hmm....

It seems good logic to reduce your AV, and then just use either NUDE + Androstadienone OR Glace +Androstadienone with the smaller AV application, however i would not go so far as using everything together with the reduced AV app.

Also if you ordered the NUDE then you would probably regret it and think " oH i should have spent the little extra and got NA", so therefore so as to get over it just go ahead and get NA this should be ok to use in moderation, and then you also have the option of using it on older mature women and also girls who may not be over sensitive to AndrostEnone, i am sure it will not be wasted...

(01-25-2013 1:14 PM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  It seems good logic to reduce your AV, and then just use either NUDE + Androstadienone OR Glace +Androstadienone with the smaller AV application, however i would not go so far as using everything together with the reduced AV app.

Also if you ordered the NUDE then you would probably regret it and think " oH i should have spent the little extra and got NA", so therefore so as to get over it just go ahead and get NA this should be ok to use in moderation, and then you also have the option of using it on older mature women and also girls who may not be over sensitive to AndrostEnone, i am sure it will not be wasted...

Ok, so you suggest getting Nude Alpha then terry? that's 2 votes for nude alpha so far...lol. How about Wolf? Do you feel Wolf would help me in any way? I am limited on cash, so I need to decide on NA, Nude, Cohesion, Wolf. Well, since now you said get NA instead of Nude, I guess just the 3 then....my budget is 150. And I know NA is very expensive...not sure if it comes in different sizes. And btw, I use Aqua di Gio as my everyday cologne. Any suggestions on what fragrances to get with the new product suggestions? I heard Wolf was awesome, but don't know if it will mix well with Aqua di Gio....that's the only cologne I have so far...

But for now, I will try the AV+Nude+Androstadienone or AV+Glace+Androstadienione as you suggested. But I only have sample vial of Nude and Wolf.

I'll reply to your pm in a bit Internet issues ATM and don't wanna write a long post on the phone lol

Random side note:

AS3, I'm on Page 150 of your Journal geez!!! Your journal is soooo longg lol hope you're well. I sent you a PM last time don't forget me! thanks =]

(01-25-2013 4:53 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Ok, so you suggest getting Nude Alpha then terry? that's 2 votes for nude alpha so far...lol. How about Wolf? Do you feel Wolf would help me in any way? I am limited on cash, so I need to decide on NA, Nude, Cohesion, Wolf. Well, since now you said get NA instead of Nude, I guess just the 3 then....my budget is 150. And I know NA is very expensive...not sure if it comes in different sizes. And btw, I use Aqua di Gio as my everyday cologne. Any suggestions on what fragrances to get with the new product suggestions? I heard Wolf was awesome, but don't know if it will mix well with Aqua di Gio....that's the only cologne I have so far...

But for now, I will try the AV+Nude+Androstadienone or AV+Glace+Androstadienione as you suggested. But I only have sample vial of Nude and Wolf.

Yes Wolf is a very easy wear very respected revered relaxed formula i loved it, actually have a tad left sitting in the console in my Commodore VS Berlina.

With wolf you make the game, apply a little charisma and you will be reeling the chics in, i really like Wolf i enjoyed my run with it, the juice has balls its just so versatile you can work it with anything.

As i have mentioned i have used heaps of NUDE and its a most worthy ice breaker and friendly, however if you want to leave a lasting impression with a new girl then Wolf will surely be your daddy

I know the young Asian girls appreciate crisp fresh scents and are not into heavy cloying type aromas.

D&G pour Homme is well liked by girls it possess an uplifting fragrance ha ha come to think about it one of the LAL products "Possess" also utilizes this fragrance, although faintly, this makes Possess an excellent wear when involved in really close action with girls and also in the bedroom.... ie the fragrance of Possess does not offend or detract from her love making experience, she will like it actually.

Ok guys...so...yesterday, I switched it up a bit and tried a little something different. I put on 1 drop of AV and applied to both sides of neck, about 6 dabs from Nude sample vial on my neck dabbed a few times on both sides, and about 6 drops of Androstadienone totaling 60mcg's, because I have the 5mg bottle from LAL which is like 10mcg per drop apparently.

I go out to meet my guy friend at the bar, and it was alright. We are drinking Blue Moon at the bar table and after a little while, my friend starts talking to the bartenders (2 korean girls, around mid-20's.) We had little jokes here and there and eventually got them to take a shot with us a few times even though they said they didn't want to at first.

So nothing special there....we asked them to join us to eat afterwards, but they didn't want to, so we left. We go to another venue, and my friend apparently is already drunk and he accidentally bumps into a table at the other bar where a couple is sitting, and the guy jumps up and tries to start a fight. My friend gets aggressive and he starts to try to fight with him too. Of course I'm holding him back and then the bouncers come and kick us out. But my friend must've been real drunk because he choked me and says to me what the fuq? Anyone else do that to me, I would flip and choke him out, but being my friend and since the situation was already escalated, we left.

Then he's all pissed at me, probably doesn't even know why...and then we end up going to eat. At the restaurant, he's acting belligerent, but eventually calms down and we eat. And there are these 2 girls, a black girl and hispanic girl by the bar, and eventually talks to my friend as we come back inside to the restaurant from smoking a cigarette. I notice these are probably whores, so I let him flirt for a bit then tell him to come back to our table. But he's so drunk and liking the female attention, and then a black guy comes in, and I can obviously see he's with them, but they all swear they don't know each other. The girls take my friend outside, and he says he going for a cigarette. Next thing 20 minutes later, and after me blowing up his phone to see where he is, he returns alone, and says that the girls have his debit and credit cards. I'm like what the freak???? Where did you go? He doesn't remember....then one of the girls comes back, and tries to act like she's on my friends side, while the black dude is talking to us trying to act like he's on our side too.

At the point, the Marine in me is kicking in and I'm super sobered up from everything that's happened. I drag my friend back every time he tries to leave and talk to the black girl, but eventually, he ends up leaving again. I try to find him everywhere, he's nowhere to be found. After 2 hours of looking for him, and his fone being dead, I end up just leaving and going home. I blow up him fone and text him, no response his phone is dead. This is at like 7am, and I'm super tired and super pissed and worried about my friend.

Around noon, he calls me and says he doesn't know how he got home. And that the girls somehow found a way to take money out of his debit card, and he lost $2,000!!!!!! I'm like WHATTTT???????? How did they take it out without his pin number or anything? So I told him to cancel all his cards, and he doesn't even remember what happened so I'm just like dude! You should've never left me man....

Anyway, needless to say, the night was a very very very shitty night, and the Pheromones really didn't do much for me earlier in the night when we were at the first bar with the bartenders talking. I honestly think they were just being friendly since we are customers and didn't really think anything else of me or my friend.

Sorry for venting, but I've been so pissed off all day from everything that happened last night, I told my friend next time he drinks with me and acts a fool, I will beat him to a pulp and shove him in my trunk if I have to so that all this crazy drama doesn't happen.

Anyway, the real original point was that I used 1 drop AV+5-6 dabs of sample Nude regular, and 6 drops of Androstadienone. I don't know if it was too little or too much, or whatever. And also I know that the 5-6 dabs of sample vials are not equal to a regular drop.

I'm thinking of ordering Nude Alpha, Wolf, and Cohesion sometime this week to try the combo that some of the members here suggested for me, which is AV+Nude Alpha+Cohesion, or AV+Wolf+Cohesion. Any suggestions from anyone here? On those combos' effectiveness and dosages that work for people?

The Nude+AV+Androstadienone didn't work for me, and the AV+Glace didn't really work for me either...unless I'm not seeing the results or the dosages are wrong?

Hope everyone had a better weekend than I did! =)

PS--> Oh yea, one more question, does anyone have recommendations for L2K by Alpha Dream? I heard it worked wonders for some people, and not so much for others....I was reading some threads earlier and just realized a lot of people were mentioning that product. Apparently its a version 2 now or something?

Well, I don't really have anything to add. You did what you could do, and your friend was on his own by his own choosing. Apparently, he isn't one of the brighter crayons in the box, but there's not much more you could have done to help him out. I am unsure what he could do to get his money back, other than call up the bank and tell them what happened and file a police report.

I would reccomend your friend consider not drinking alcohol anymore. It doesn't sound like he is the right kind of person to be drinking based on this story, nothing against him personally of course, but it's just not ideal for some people.

Capping your finger over a sample vial from Garry and flipping it over 2-3 times is roughly one drop. I would reccomend trying what you have a few more times before getting anything else. No need to buy everything all at once right away, you can do that overtime. Experiment a bit, have some fun, try a lot, try not much, that sort of thing. They are samples, just know that you need to be putting some effort in as well.

-Curi

(01-28-2013 3:21 AM)yj404 Wrote:  Ok guys...so...yesterday, I switched it up a bit and tried a little something different. I put on 1 drop of AV and applied to both sides of neck, about 6 dabs from Nude sample vial on my neck dabbed a few times on both sides, and about 6 drops of Androstadienone totaling 60mcg's, because I have the 5mg bottle from LAL which is like 10mcg per drop apparently.

I go out to meet my guy friend at the bar, and it was alright. We are drinking Blue Moon at the bar table and after a little while, my friend starts talking to the bartenders (2 korean girls, around mid-20's.) We had little jokes here and there and eventually got them to take a shot with us a few times even though they said they didn't want to at first.

So nothing special there....we asked them to join us to eat afterwards, but they didn't want to, so we left. We go to another venue, and my friend apparently is already drunk and he accidentally bumps into a table at the other bar where a couple is sitting, and the guy jumps up and tries to start a fight. My friend gets aggressive and he starts to try to fight with him too. Of course I'm holding him back and then the bouncers come and kick us out. But my friend must've been real drunk because he choked me and says to me what the fuq? Anyone else do that to me, I would flip and choke him out, but being my friend and since the situation was already escalated, we left.

Then he's all pissed at me, probably doesn't even know why...and then we end up going to eat. At the restaurant, he's acting belligerent, but eventually calms down and we eat. And there are these 2 girls, a black girl and hispanic girl by the bar, and eventually talks to my friend as we come back inside to the restaurant from smoking a cigarette. I notice these are probably whores, so I let him flirt for a bit then tell him to come back to our table. But he's so drunk and liking the female attention, and then a black guy comes in, and I can obviously see he's with them, but they all swear they don't know each other. The girls take my friend outside, and he says he going for a cigarette. Next thing 20 minutes later, and after me blowing up his phone to see where he is, he returns alone, and says that the girls have his debit and credit cards. I'm like what the freak???? Where did you go? He doesn't remember....then one of the girls comes back, and tries to act like she's on my friends side, while the black dude is talking to us trying to act like he's on our side too.

At the point, the Marine in me is kicking in and I'm super sobered up from everything that's happened. I drag my friend back every time he tries to leave and talk to the black girl, but eventually, he ends up leaving again. I try to find him everywhere, he's nowhere to be found. After 2 hours of looking for him, and his fone being dead, I end up just leaving and going home. I blow up him fone and text him, no response his phone is dead. This is at like 7am, and I'm super tired and super pissed and worried about my friend.

Around noon, he calls me and says he doesn't know how he got home. And that the girls somehow found a way to take money out of his debit card, and he lost $2,000!!!!!! I'm like WHATTTT???????? How did they take it out without his pin number or anything? So I told him to cancel all his cards, and he doesn't even remember what happened so I'm just like dude! You should've never left me man....

Anyway, needless to say, the night was a very very very shitty night, and the Pheromones really didn't do much for me earlier in the night when we were at the first bar with the bartenders talking. I honestly think they were just being friendly since we are customers and didn't really think anything else of me or my friend.

Sorry for venting, but I've been so pissed off all day from everything that happened last night, I told my friend next time he drinks with me and acts a fool, I will beat him to a pulp and shove him in my trunk if I have to so that all this crazy drama doesn't happen.

Anyway, the real original point was that I used 1 drop AV+5-6 dabs of sample Nude regular, and 6 drops of Androstadienone. I don't know if it was too little or too much, or whatever. And also I know that the 5-6 dabs of sample vials are not equal to a regular drop.

I'm thinking of ordering Nude Alpha, Wolf, and Cohesion sometime this week to try the combo that some of the members here suggested for me, which is AV+Nude Alpha+Cohesion, or AV+Wolf+Cohesion. Any suggestions from anyone here? On those combos' effectiveness and dosages that work for people?

The Nude+AV+Androstadienone didn't work for me, and the AV+Glace didn't really work for me either...unless I'm not seeing the results or the dosages are wrong?

Hope everyone had a better weekend than I did! =)

PS--> Oh yea, one more question, does anyone have recommendations for L2K by Alpha Dream? I heard it worked wonders for some people, and not so much for others....I was reading some threads earlier and just realized a lot of people were mentioning that product. Apparently its a version 2 now or something?

Yeah shit happens and sometimes even the best application will fail to hit the light fandango ,and what a dam shame it is about your wingman mate going and getting himself rotten and then taken to the cleaners by them whores, this would make a good script for a comedy ha ha, you can both take a few drinks sometime and have a good laugh about it .

This looks good in my book Wolf 3 dr + Cohesion-XS 2 dr, another could be Nude Alpha + Cohesion-XS, just start out light with the NA, work it from there and you will be on the money....

(01-28-2013 6:58 AM)Curiosity Wrote:   Well, I don't really have anything to add. You did what you could do, and your friend was on his own by his own choosing. Apparently, he isn't one of the brighter crayons in the box, but there's not much more you could have done to help him out. I am unsure what he could do to get his money back, other than call up the bank and tell them what happened and file a police report.

I would reccomend your friend consider not drinking alcohol anymore. It doesn't sound like he is the right kind of person to be drinking based on this story, nothing against him personally of course, but it's just not ideal for some people.

Capping your finger over a sample vial from Garry and flipping it over 2-3 times is roughly one drop. I would reccomend trying what you have a few more times before getting anything else. No need to buy everything all at once right away, you can do that overtime. Experiment a bit, have some fun, try a lot, try not much, that sort of thing. They are samples, just know that you need to be putting some effort in as well.

-Curi

Yes, haha I agree...I told him he needs to lay off the alcohol for a while because he's getting out of control. I seriously had to hold myself back when he choked me as we were getting kicked out of a bar. I was ready to attack him and figure 4 choke his ass out seriously!!! The embarrassing part was the bar we went to and pretty much all the venues we went to, I'm a regular there. I mean, I'm not VIP status or anything, but they all know my face so it was even more embarrassing.

Anyway, so 2-3 dabs of the sample vials equal to 1 drop of regular bottle for LAL products? Got it thank you. I know I can't get and afford to get everything anyway, but my next purchase and probably my final purchase for at least 6 months is going to be a 10mL bottle of NA and also Wolf. With those two additions, I think I will have enough to play with since I already have AV, Glace, and Androstadienone.

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(01-28-2013 7:12 AM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  Yeah shit happens and sometimes even the best application will fail to hit the light fandango ,and what a dam shame it is about your wingman mate going and getting himself rotten and then taken to the cleaners by them whores, this would make a good script for a comedy ha ha, you can both take a few drinks sometime and have a good laugh about it .

This looks good in my book Wolf 3 dr + Cohesion-XS 2 dr, another could be Nude Alpha + Cohesion-XS, just start out light with the NA, work it from there and you will be on the money....

Yea, my friend was making a fool out of himself and even me..which totally ruined my night. I guess I only had one chance to really test out the mones, which was at the first venue, but that didnt go so smooth. After that, it was downhill and basically drama....

So you think 3 drops Wolf+CohesionXS 2 drops or NA 3 drops +Cohesion 2 drops is a good combo? What do you mean by start light with NA? Should I go less than 3 drops? I know I asked you this already, but is Cohesion really worth it? I have Androstadienone already, but Cohesion users speak as if Cohesion really is worth getting and replacing Androstadienone with...and I wonder if the hype is really true or if its just an exaggeration hmm....thank you sir!

(01-28-2013 11:55 PM)yj404 Wrote:  Yes, haha I agree...I told him he needs to lay off the alcohol for a while because he's getting out of control. I seriously had to hold myself back when he choked me as we were getting kicked out of a bar. I was ready to attack him and figure 4 choke his ass out seriously!!! The embarrassing part was the bar we went to and pretty much all the venues we went to, I'm a regular there. I mean, I'm not VIP status or anything, but they all know my face so it was even more embarrassing.

Anyway, so 2-3 dabs of the sample vials equal to 1 drop of regular bottle for LAL products? Got it thank you. I know I can't get and afford to get everything anyway, but my next purchase and probably my final purchase for at least 6 months is going to be a 10mL bottle of NA and also Wolf. With those two additions, I think I will have enough to play with since I already have AV, Glace, and Androstadienone.

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(01-28-2013 7:12 AM)terry0400-40 Wrote:  Yeah shit happens and sometimes even the best application will fail to hit the light fandango ,and what a dam shame it is about your wingman mate going and getting himself rotten and then taken to the cleaners by them whores, this would make a good script for a comedy ha ha, you can both take a few drinks sometime and have a good laugh about it .

This looks good in my book Wolf 3 dr + Cohesion-XS 2 dr, another could be Nude Alpha + Cohesion-XS, just start out light with the NA, work it from there and you will be on the money....

Yea, my friend was making a fool out of himself and even me..which totally ruined my night. I guess I only had one chance to really test out the mones, which was at the first venue, but that didnt go so smooth. After that, it was downhill and basically drama....

So you think 3 drops Wolf+CohesionXS 2 drops or NA 3 drops +Cohesion 2 drops is a good combo? What do you mean by start light with NA? Should I go less than 3 drops? I know I asked you this already, but is Cohesion really worth it? I have Androstadienone already, but Cohesion users speak as if Cohesion really is worth getting and replacing Androstadienone with...and I wonder if the hype is really true or if its just an exaggeration hmm....thank you sir!

Yes my friend you have Androstadienone therefore just go with this for awhile and consider ordering some Cohesion-XS down the track sometime, with regard to your Androstadienone i suggest that you plan your targets wisely when deciding on its use eg close intimate encounters, and make sure you have some applied whenever your girl is experiencing her monthly, when the young women are bouncing around happy and feeling good then why bother with Androstadienone because under these conditions the Androstadienone is not going to necessarily garner any advanced degree of attraction for the wearer, and this is where just a little NA is going to make you appear inviting to her sensitivities , i would start out experimenting with just a drop and use it alone so as to get the feel for it.

I think that you have made an excellent choice in going for Wolf, also start out with a drop and work it from there, just remember when the weather is cold to apply on your hot spot pulse point and spread your applications out well to cover more skin surface, ensuring your application areas are nice clean and free of accumulated perspiration ect.

Some folks have skin surface that may absorb the pheromones, especially if the skin surface is dried out then what i do is apply just a vey small dab of organic coconut oil to my app areas and rub it on a little and this makes a good surface for the pheromone applications