06-11-2013, 4:36 AM
06-24-2014, 7:16 PM
Hey all,
So I didn't intend for this to be my first post as a member, but I happened to be browsing the topic and thought I would share my experience with dienone (in LIIK v2, Black Spice).
First time I wore the LIIK v2, I tried one spray to the side of the neck and didn't seem to have any ill effects - I went to a house party that a girl I like was hosting and things went pretty darn well. I had a "deer in the headlights" hit right off the bat from the hosts' friend, and the host seem to be oogling me whenever she got the chance, and finding excuses to wait on me and have physical contact. The party ended up having to end early as the host got an emergency call from her parents and had to leave, so I decided to check out my local karaoke night at my favorite local haunt. Before I left I decided to try one more spray of LIIK v2 to the other side of the neck (wish I had come across the posts about dienone and reapplying LIIK v2 before I did this), and rubbed it in with the inside of my wrist.
So I went in and ordered a drink, sang a song, and things seemed to be going alright. Got some recurring interest from a cute blonde (looked like Lily LaBeau haha), took it as a hit because she kept leaving her guy friends to come talk to me for most of the night. However, I ran in to girl two at the bar who was a friend of mine, and started having a conversation with her (this is about 2 hours after the second spray). All of a sudden I felt this incredible sadness come over me - I'm sure the alcohol wasn't helping, but it was very different from having one too many drinks... I felt like I wanted to die, and that the whole world wanted me to as well. I said I wasn't feeling well and excused myself, not wanting to be the super depressed and lonely guy in the bar. About 5 minutes later as I was walking home, I ran in to a friend of mine, who asked me how I was doing because I looked down. I couldn't do anything else but burst in to tears and ramble for a few minutes on stupid shit that didn't really warrant the reaction I was giving it. I ended up making it home alright, and passed out.
The next morning I woke up feeling physically fine, but emotionally I was still a wreck. I ordered pizza and ate it all day because I was too depressed to cook anything, and lied on the couch in an almost-catatonic state watching TV for about 8 hours straight, before going to bed. By day-two post application I woke up feeling at least motivated to get up and take a shower, cook breakfast, etc, but I had this funk about me that is just now going away (this is day 4 post-application).
It was one of the most uncomfortable and lonely times I have felt in many years. It really is a shame because I like the idea of the effects of dienone on women, but I never want to live through the self-effects again. I seem to get better hits with good ol' none and a social buffer than I do with dienone, so I think I will be leaving it be.
Apologies for such a downer first post, but I'm glad to be on the forum now. HI EVERYONE!
So I didn't intend for this to be my first post as a member, but I happened to be browsing the topic and thought I would share my experience with dienone (in LIIK v2, Black Spice).
First time I wore the LIIK v2, I tried one spray to the side of the neck and didn't seem to have any ill effects - I went to a house party that a girl I like was hosting and things went pretty darn well. I had a "deer in the headlights" hit right off the bat from the hosts' friend, and the host seem to be oogling me whenever she got the chance, and finding excuses to wait on me and have physical contact. The party ended up having to end early as the host got an emergency call from her parents and had to leave, so I decided to check out my local karaoke night at my favorite local haunt. Before I left I decided to try one more spray of LIIK v2 to the other side of the neck (wish I had come across the posts about dienone and reapplying LIIK v2 before I did this), and rubbed it in with the inside of my wrist.
So I went in and ordered a drink, sang a song, and things seemed to be going alright. Got some recurring interest from a cute blonde (looked like Lily LaBeau haha), took it as a hit because she kept leaving her guy friends to come talk to me for most of the night. However, I ran in to girl two at the bar who was a friend of mine, and started having a conversation with her (this is about 2 hours after the second spray). All of a sudden I felt this incredible sadness come over me - I'm sure the alcohol wasn't helping, but it was very different from having one too many drinks... I felt like I wanted to die, and that the whole world wanted me to as well. I said I wasn't feeling well and excused myself, not wanting to be the super depressed and lonely guy in the bar. About 5 minutes later as I was walking home, I ran in to a friend of mine, who asked me how I was doing because I looked down. I couldn't do anything else but burst in to tears and ramble for a few minutes on stupid shit that didn't really warrant the reaction I was giving it. I ended up making it home alright, and passed out.
The next morning I woke up feeling physically fine, but emotionally I was still a wreck. I ordered pizza and ate it all day because I was too depressed to cook anything, and lied on the couch in an almost-catatonic state watching TV for about 8 hours straight, before going to bed. By day-two post application I woke up feeling at least motivated to get up and take a shower, cook breakfast, etc, but I had this funk about me that is just now going away (this is day 4 post-application).
It was one of the most uncomfortable and lonely times I have felt in many years. It really is a shame because I like the idea of the effects of dienone on women, but I never want to live through the self-effects again. I seem to get better hits with good ol' none and a social buffer than I do with dienone, so I think I will be leaving it be.
Apologies for such a downer first post, but I'm glad to be on the forum now. HI EVERYONE!
06-24-2014, 9:14 PM
(06-24-2014 7:16 PM)thejazzcat Wrote: [ -> ]Hey all,
So I didn't intend for this to be my first post as a member, but I happened to be browsing the topic and thought I would share my experience with dienone (in LIIK v2, Black Spice).
First time I wore the LIIK v2, I tried one spray to the side of the neck and didn't seem to have any ill effects - I went to a house party that a girl I like was hosting and things went pretty darn well. I had a "deer in the headlights" hit right off the bat from the hosts' friend, and the host seem to be oogling me whenever she got the chance, and finding excuses to wait on me and have physical contact. The party ended up having to end early as the host got an emergency call from her parents and had to leave, so I decided to check out my local karaoke night at my favorite local haunt. Before I left I decided to try one more spray of LIIK v2 to the other side of the neck (wish I had come across the posts about dienone and reapplying LIIK v2 before I did this), and rubbed it in with the inside of my wrist.
So I went in and ordered a drink, sang a song, and things seemed to be going alright. Got some recurring interest from a cute blonde (looked like Lily LaBeau haha), took it as a hit because she kept leaving her guy friends to come talk to me for most of the night. However, I ran in to girl two at the bar who was a friend of mine, and started having a conversation with her (this is about 2 hours after the second spray). All of a sudden I felt this incredible sadness come over me - I'm sure the alcohol wasn't helping, but it was very different from having one too many drinks... I felt like I wanted to die, and that the whole world wanted me to as well. I said I wasn't feeling well and excused myself, not wanting to be the super depressed and lonely guy in the bar. About 5 minutes later as I was walking home, I ran in to a friend of mine, who asked me how I was doing because I looked down. I couldn't do anything else but burst in to tears and ramble for a few minutes on stupid shit that didn't really warrant the reaction I was giving it. I ended up making it home alright, and passed out.
The next morning I woke up feeling physically fine, but emotionally I was still a wreck. I ordered pizza and ate it all day because I was too depressed to cook anything, and lied on the couch in an almost-catatonic state watching TV for about 8 hours straight, before going to bed. By day-two post application I woke up feeling at least motivated to get up and take a shower, cook breakfast, etc, but I had this funk about me that is just now going away (this is day 4 post-application).
It was one of the most uncomfortable and lonely times I have felt in many years. It really is a shame because I like the idea of the effects of dienone on women, but I never want to live through the self-effects again. I seem to get better hits with good ol' none and a social buffer than I do with dienone, so I think I will be leaving it be.
Apologies for such a downer first post, but I'm glad to be on the forum now. HI EVERYONE!
People prone to Androstadienone depression usually experience it mightly at the hand of l2k esp v2. I did for days (4) after use I couldn't even get out of bed.
However, not all products are as bad.. Don't give up just yet.. AM doesn't cause severe depression in me (I've used it on and off for 2 years). At best case no depression, at worst case depression for 1 day.. Not so bad if the date went well and you recover at home the next day without going out.
If you're sensitive to Androstadienone either don't use it, or use it sparingly like 1 -2 x week.
I am very Androstadienone sensitive but use taboo which has Androstadienone but doesn't cause me problems, and Am which has Androstadienone .. I use 1 spray Am and 2 sprays taboo without problems most of the time. These have worked for me.
Also get your testosterone levels checked out. Androstadienone sensitivities tend to also bother men who are low normal in test. I use androgel and after having it increased from 5.0 mg to 7.5 mg I can use more Androstadienone and more often without nearly as much problems.
Also having some instant shine or taa on hand does wonders.. I don't use it with Am or taboo but if I experience the blues on occasion due to Androstadienone usage 2 sprays of double strength IS get me feeling on top of the world. Its fantastic stuff to keep on hand when you need a lift. I don't use it on a regular basis as I want it to have SELF effects of bright mood and this happens if you don't get used to a product too much.
06-24-2014, 9:56 PM
(06-24-2014 9:14 PM)dsouza Wrote: [ -> ]Also get your testosterone levels checked out. Androstadienone sensitivities tend to also bother men who are low normal in test. I use androgel and after having it increased from 5.0 mg to 7.5 mg I can use more Androstadienone and more often without nearly as much problems.
Oh man, this is great info - I have not been tested but I have always suspected my t levels are off- I was a chronic pot smoker as well as a chronic masturbator until recently (joined nofap, great board) and I noticed that my sex drive has not quite been normal for years. I also have had early male pattern baldness though, which makes me think that I suffer from high testosterone rather than low. But still an imbalance none the less. I don't understand enough about the dht/testosterone relationship to really say what might be going on, just that its different from "normal".
Any thoughts on that from anyone? If it helps I have noticed my best hits with only scent of Eros, everything else seems to have unpredictable effects at best - especially high none containing products. I had hoped the dienone would help buffer, which is why I tried LIIKv2 to begin with.
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06-25-2014, 1:36 AM
(06-24-2014 9:56 PM)thejazzcat Wrote: [ -> ]Oh man, this is great info - I have not been tested but I have always suspected my t levels are off- I was a chronic pot smoker as well as a chronic masturbator until recently (joined nofap, great board) and I noticed that my sex drive has not quite been normal for years. I also have had early male pattern baldness though, which makes me think that I suffer from high testosterone rather than low. But still an imbalance none the less. I don't understand enough about the dht/testosterone relationship to really say what might be going on, just that its different from "normal".
Any thoughts on that from anyone? If it helps I have noticed my best hits with only scent of Eros, everything else seems to have unpredictable effects at best - especially high none containing products. I had hoped the dienone would help buffer, which is why I tried LIIKv2 to begin with.
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Sounds like you have high test.. Then stay away from too much none.. L2k v2 has got considerable none.
Stick to Scent of Eros if it works for you.
06-25-2014, 3:31 AM
06-26-2014, 8:18 PM
Cohesion (oil) is my only high dienone product.
I've tested extensively at work almost every other day. Saying that, you could say I wasn't bothered too much by the self-effects of Androstadienone .
Though I must say, the first time using Cohesion, also my first exposure to Androstadienone , was the worse thing to happen. I literally had a pounding headache from 10 mins from app time all the way till the next morning. Seriously, was very bad. Physical pain, not even mental at this point.
However, the 2cd and 3rd using it, were not as bad as that day. After about of week of using it, I can say I almost became used to the effects. A theory I like to think of why this is, is because I'm more of an introverted person. Introverts deal with their thoughts all the time. So the feeling Androstadienone can bring is no surprise to me and I just deal with the thoughts as I would any other time.
So during my ~4 month run with Cohesion as a base, I saw firsthand its imprinting take place (alongside Connections/b-nol at times) So after that I wanted to try other products, sat my Cohesion down for a good month or so before trying it again.
So I tried it later, got a headache again like I did my 3rd day using it, nowhere near as bad though as the very first day. So what I found in my use is that I grow a tolerance to its effects after a few days of use. Yes, I do get its effects worsen a very small bit up to 3 days of consecutive use, but after those 3 days, the tolerance starts building, I work my mind around the thoughts, and everything turns out fine. If I take a week or longer break from any Androstadienone , my tolerance falls fast and I have to start over again.
Nowadays, all I get is that I become more introverted than I would with other blends. ALmost all my other blends make me more social around others. But Cohesion (sometimes Connections) intrroverts me to my normal amount of socializing. But it doesn't bother me because I used to never really talk much with others, but now that I am, I can see its typical Androstadienone effects happening to me at this point in my phero journey. To say more specifically, it dulls my emotions & kills my thoughts actually. I literally become a wall of no emotion sometimes and I have to work myself to keep open and joyus for others to follow me. Usually isn't a problem as I always buffer my Androstadienone times now with a social product, but even then, it still has that effect to a noticeable degree.
p.s. I want to say though, I love both straight Androstadienone & Cohesion for effects on others haha. Definitely worth the self-effects to have certain co-worker(s) fall all over me.
p.s.s. Cohesion+Connections/B-Nol product, is a killer imprinter. Probably my favorite combo because it fits my personality, I always recommend it here haha.
random report:
I used a combo of Xist, straight Androstadienone , and Love Boat the other day at work. What happened was not good, it killed all socializing almost in those around me. I had another co-worker come in, then later ask me why was everyone so quiet today. "XyzN, did something happen? Everyone is like not saying anything."
It was really weird because I felt the same way as everyone around me. Felt perfectly fine on the way to work, but soon after the application of the Pheromones, everything started going south. idk what happened with the blend here
I've tested extensively at work almost every other day. Saying that, you could say I wasn't bothered too much by the self-effects of Androstadienone .
Though I must say, the first time using Cohesion, also my first exposure to Androstadienone , was the worse thing to happen. I literally had a pounding headache from 10 mins from app time all the way till the next morning. Seriously, was very bad. Physical pain, not even mental at this point.
However, the 2cd and 3rd using it, were not as bad as that day. After about of week of using it, I can say I almost became used to the effects. A theory I like to think of why this is, is because I'm more of an introverted person. Introverts deal with their thoughts all the time. So the feeling Androstadienone can bring is no surprise to me and I just deal with the thoughts as I would any other time.
So during my ~4 month run with Cohesion as a base, I saw firsthand its imprinting take place (alongside Connections/b-nol at times) So after that I wanted to try other products, sat my Cohesion down for a good month or so before trying it again.
So I tried it later, got a headache again like I did my 3rd day using it, nowhere near as bad though as the very first day. So what I found in my use is that I grow a tolerance to its effects after a few days of use. Yes, I do get its effects worsen a very small bit up to 3 days of consecutive use, but after those 3 days, the tolerance starts building, I work my mind around the thoughts, and everything turns out fine. If I take a week or longer break from any Androstadienone , my tolerance falls fast and I have to start over again.
Nowadays, all I get is that I become more introverted than I would with other blends. ALmost all my other blends make me more social around others. But Cohesion (sometimes Connections) intrroverts me to my normal amount of socializing. But it doesn't bother me because I used to never really talk much with others, but now that I am, I can see its typical Androstadienone effects happening to me at this point in my phero journey. To say more specifically, it dulls my emotions & kills my thoughts actually. I literally become a wall of no emotion sometimes and I have to work myself to keep open and joyus for others to follow me. Usually isn't a problem as I always buffer my Androstadienone times now with a social product, but even then, it still has that effect to a noticeable degree.
p.s. I want to say though, I love both straight Androstadienone & Cohesion for effects on others haha. Definitely worth the self-effects to have certain co-worker(s) fall all over me.
p.s.s. Cohesion+Connections/B-Nol product, is a killer imprinter. Probably my favorite combo because it fits my personality, I always recommend it here haha.
random report:
I used a combo of Xist, straight Androstadienone , and Love Boat the other day at work. What happened was not good, it killed all socializing almost in those around me. I had another co-worker come in, then later ask me why was everyone so quiet today. "XyzN, did something happen? Everyone is like not saying anything."
It was really weird because I felt the same way as everyone around me. Felt perfectly fine on the way to work, but soon after the application of the Pheromones, everything started going south. idk what happened with the blend here
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