(03-08-2016 5:48 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Well.......let's keep this in perspective.

You are essentially bringing back a mix that is no longer available..........this certainly justifies a premium price.

How much would people pay for :

MAG

MX297

MX331 (PS)

Justified, perhaps. Reasonable? Not so much. I'd like to keep the pricing realistic and affordable, regardless of how well the mix ends up working. Below $80 per 10mL is what I'm shooting for.

Should that not be possible, I'll consider your thoughts and raise the price to something sustainable, but I'm not going to base these prices merely on what some users are willing to pay. If I can go below that threshold, I will.

As I recall, wasn't MX333 the favored of the series? Pantyscorcher is close to the top of my list on mixes I plan to bring out. I'll contact Shannon to find out how we'll go about this just as soon as Love-Scent and Stone Labs get back to me. I'm extremely confident this mix can be brought back, if and only if Shannon kept the formula on hand somewhere.

I'm working on something similar to MX297 as well, minus the betafying qualities some users have experienced. A spiritual successor to A314 is far from where this ends.

(03-08-2016 6:51 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  Justified, perhaps. Reasonable? Not so much. I'd like to keep the pricing realistic and affordable, regardless of how well the mix ends up working. Below $80 per 10mL is what I'm shooting for.

Should that not be possible, I'll consider your thoughts and raise the price to something sustainable, but I'm not going to base these prices merely on what some users are willing to pay. If I can go below that threshold, I will.

As I recall, wasn't MX333 the favored of the series? Pantyscorcher is close to the top of my list on mixes I plan to bring out. I'll contact Shannon to find out how we'll go about this just as soon as Love-Scent and Stone Labs get back to me. I'm extremely confident this mix can be brought back, if and only if Shannon kept the formula on hand somewhere.

I'm working on something similar to MX297 as well, minus the betafying qualities some users have experienced. A spiritual successor to A314 is far from where this ends.

Correct - MX333........I usually write 331 in case someone want to search for it......because it's sometimes written as MX331-4.

Are you aware that Shannon actually sells some products now? I think they are non-mone..........last I saw he was testing them just like a mone product and selling them for $200 a bottle.

In my opinion, MX333 (PS) was the closest thing to a Holy Grail Mix that I've ever used with some absolutely insane projection.

So crazy to think that these mixes came from Androtics......who haven't had a legit product in several years.

(03-08-2016 7:02 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Correct - MX333........I usually write 331 in case someone want to search for it......because it's sometimes written as MX331-4.

Are you aware that Shannon actually sells some products now? I think they are non-mone..........last I saw he was testing them just like a mone product and selling them for $200 a bottle.

In my opinion, MX333 (PS) was the closest thing to a Holy Grail Mix that I've ever used with some absolutely insane projection.

So crazy to think that these mixes came from Androtics......who haven't had a legit product in several years.

I wasn't aware, though I doubt he knows the identity of whatever putatives compose Pantyscorcher. This still makes for an advantageous arrangement, one way or another. Where can I find these products you mention?

(03-08-2016 7:19 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  I wasn't aware, though I doubt he knows the identity of whatever putatives compose Pantyscorcher. This still makes for an advantageous arrangement, one way or another. Where can I find these products you mention?

Here is a post on his forum where he mentions them :

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-3619.h...=fragrance

If you want more info, I think he talks about them in his journal. Can't find the page right now, but the link is somewhere in one these threads (think it's the first one):

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Panty-Scorc...ight=panty

http://pherotruth.org/search.php?action=...order=desc

(03-08-2016 7:31 PM)theLaw Wrote:  Here is a post on his forum where he mentions them :

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-3619.h...=fragrance

If you want more info, I think he talks about them in his journal. Can't find the page right now, but the link is somewhere in one these threads (think it's the first one):

http://pherotruth.org/Thread-Panty-Scorc...ight=panty

http://pherotruth.org/search.php?action=...order=desc

Ah, he's going in precisely the same direction I'm going in with scent. Fascinating.

AbdesSalaam Attar (Profumo) himself has quite a bit to say on Basenotes regarding the idea of natural pheromones, though his knowledge focuses more on scent with a basic understanding of some of what we know here.

DrSmellThis is another who recognized the pheromonal properties of many components, and he's used this knowledge for many years, since formulating Pheromones and before.

This is one topic that could go on for ages. Something for another time. I hope some of us here will consider working with real essential oils and absolutes to determine their pheromonal properties, appropriate dose ranges for best effects, and so on. I think many of us will be surprised to discover the similarities.

Back to alpha mixes, then...

(03-08-2016 2:42 PM)SuperJoy Wrote:  Awesome man. Me too. Post any results on this forum's section. I'm flying mostly in the dark on this one. Would love any inputs from those that can't stand the synthetic scents.

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(03-08-2016 2:34 PM)Ekscentra Wrote:  However, I'm not just using real ambergris. I'm using the best I could source on the open market.

What does this mean? Is what I ordered not "real"?

Its good to hear there are others that feel the same way. Try Eden Botanicals as another good source of EO (they have a sustainable royal Hawaiian sandalwood as well).

If Ekscentra keeps on like this (Apollo, Opus), he's going to be getting some serious business from myself and many here, methinks.

Can you guys start a new thread?

The thread is being derailed. Ekscentra, please start a new thread on your attempts to revive old androtics product. It would be good to have all our thoughts at one place. It will be really good to keep thoughts about one subject in one thread.

Keep this thread for NP17 alpha product reviews or other alpha product review.

THanks

(03-09-2016 7:04 AM)kalpan56 Wrote:  Can you guys start a new thread?

The thread is being derailed. Ekscentra, please start a new thread on your attempts to revive old androtics product. It would be good to have all our thoughts at one place. It will be really good to keep thoughts about one subject in one thread.

Keep this thread for NP17 alpha product reviews or other alpha product review.

THanks

I agree. I'll start that thread now.

Edit: Done. Please direct any future discussion there, and let's get this thread back on-topic.

Atlas: 2-4 sprays
Likableness: 3.5 Pretty likable. I can't complain.
Status: 4.5 Very good. I am the MAN. Sort of like Scent of Eros but hits harder
Social: 3.5 It's like XiSt. Uplifting mood and talkative
Respect: 4 Excellent respect, but lacks the submissive aspect that I see with Kane or A314
Intimidation: 2.5 Decent, much like TUSC. I now think that 3.5 was a bit generous for intimidation with TUSC.
Self-Effects: 3 Social effects, posture comparable to Ascend
Comments: Not seeing a sexual side. More cuddly and comforting than sexual. Still masculine though, but not like A314 or Kane. It's more of a social alpha, and like TUSC, it lacks aggression where that's what I would like to see.

Agree with your Atlas review, except for the status which for me is lower than a 4.5 I find

M.