Thanks for the input. I apologize for the run on paragraphs ! I think I'm only going use AV when I am alone with my wife. I've read from some of the other posters that it can mess up friendships. I don't want that to happen. I'm going to be in a two hour car ride with another couple.

Third time used AV (4 drops) in the gym, and the self-effect is awesome! My sessions are longer and more powerful, so must be for sure the AV, because didn't change anything. Still didn't try in the social/club setting....

(03-16-2017 7:39 AM)Sgt. Majorproblem Wrote:  Third time used AV (4 drops) in the gym, and the self-effect is awesome! My sessions are longer and more powerful, so must be for sure the AV, because didn't change anything. Still didn't try in the social/club setting....

Yeah, it is a nice motivator, isn't it. You could almost consider it like a pre-workout. But it seems to fall off after a few days of use.

I've found some guys get stoked and fun on it, others have an allergic like reaction (sniffing watery eyes) and some get uptight - like Average Frustrated Chump style.

hi every body i am i newbie here just ordered av unscented na unscented and dp got bw and od as sample thanks garry.
i am 44 years old middle-east move to Canada when i was 20 i own couple of fast food restaurant usually i very smiling person .
i Ben testing av for work i put 4 drop for 2 day and i fired one of my new staff but still i will gonna get her fire any way but usually am a passion person so i lower my dose to 1 drop but i didn't fell any self effect and at two drop am OK tell any body piss me i get really pump i have one of my manger that even a test from her will upset me and all i have in my head is too fire her i know that i don't like her work but i think av make me want to act sooner.
i see a lot of smile from my customer at 2 drop even some of the cute one +35 year just froze when i ask her about her order
my question do you get use to av over time and the frustration goes away
thanks

(04-13-2017 12:54 PM)maged.k Wrote:  my question do you get use to av over time and the frustration goes away
thanks

Yes, the self-effects will usually go away over time if you use consistently.

thanks i am gonna test it for couple of week and after will try na alone for couple weeks after i will try to combine both
so far i like the self effect i have a lot of teen working for me some of the guys try to be hard and don't listen when you ask them but not when i ware av
sorry for my English i live in the french area

One cool thing I've noticed about av is that guys always wanna be your friend. For some reason more random dudes will come up to me and try to start up a convo and try to be friends with me. It Happens quit a bit for me wearing av As a matter of fact since im writing this,I decided im going to wear av and hypnotica tonight, going to hangout with some friends from college. I've never worn anything other than av when I wear it. Interested in what hypnotica will bring to the table as I'm generally not too outgoing unless under the influence lol.

I've had some hits with girls, as I've mentioned starting convo with me, which never happens either when I don't wear av. But I need to wear it out to clubs more. I usually wear am or l2k at clubs, I feel sprays are more consistent in that situation. But I wanna tryout av more in clubs. Will report.

(04-21-2017 8:05 PM)Pheroseeker Wrote:  One cool thing I've noticed about av is that guys always wanna be your friend. For some reason more random dudes will come up to me and try to start up a convo and try to be friends with me. It Happens quit a bit for me wearing av.

I confirm this too. It happened to me such situations.
Sometimes even it's annoying

(04-21-2017 8:05 PM)Pheroseeker Wrote:  I've had some hits with girls, as I've mentioned starting convo with me, which never happens either when I don't wear av. But I need to wear it out to clubs more. I usually wear am or l2k at clubs...

When You purchase your AM and L2K?
Which version?
Before Hedione or None fiasko of AD?
Or newer batch?

(04-21-2017 8:05 PM)Pheroseeker Wrote:  One cool thing I've noticed about av is that guys always wanna be your friend. For some reason more random dudes will come up to me and try to start up a convo and try to be friends with me. It Happens quit a bit for me wearing av As a matter of fact since im writing this,I decided im going to wear av and hypnotica tonight, going to hangout with some friends from college. I've never worn anything other than av when I wear it. Interested in what hypnotica will bring to the table as I'm generally not too outgoing unless under the influence lol.

I've had some hits with girls, as I've mentioned starting convo with me, which never happens either when I don't wear av. But I need to wear it out to clubs more. I usually wear am or l2k at clubs, I feel sprays are more consistent in that situation. But I wanna tryout av more in clubs. Will report.

AV and Hypnotica is a pretty good combo from personal experience. Should be interesting.

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I used the newer batch of am and l2k. No experience with the old versions to speak of, but I still do really enjoy the products.

The run with av and hypnotica was cool. Everyone was being friendly, all dudes. One guy was shit testing me, i kept laughing it off. But i got tired of it and said one thing to put him in his place and he was quiet the rest of the night lol.

Edit: I still don't know how to quote people lol, how do I quote people on here?