(06-07-2017 1:10 PM)Spider-mone Wrote:  I think that's where the inconsistent reports come from. this is a hard vibe to maintain over and over unless you have this vibe about you naturally. I've had some success with AV in initial stages and had one of my biggest AHA moments with it when i was first starting out but this vibe is just too hard for me to maintain because I'm not a natural rock star.

Spot on....I agree. AV produced some of the strongest hits ive ever seen. Women aggressively boobing me. Women putting their hands over their pussy, arching their backs and avoiding eye contact. Crazy effective, but it takes a lot of energy to pull it off.

Made me hyper aggressive. I felt like I was all cock and balls. Also strong negative hits from men.

A great blend when you have the energy to pull it off.

Went to a concert last night. 4 drops av + 2 sprays xist sampler ( suppose to smooth out av) .
Went to pick up my buddy , his gf always friendly and stuff but I think she was much much friendlier and flirtier than usual. She went straight for a hug too which usually happen only like 10% . Got a big whiff of xist(av on wrists and elbows) and I swear her pupils went fucking huge. She was flirty after with Kino and play fighting fter I almost physically felt friends awkwardness . still wondering if it was xist or av .

Anyway at a bar I felt like bartend etc was borderline ignoring me etc as well as people. Figured ghosting ? Is this what this is ? Washed about 2 drops off and what u know ? While walking back 2 blonds in their 30s not really my type just staring me down (overweight slightly). Then we go to a hookah bar prior to concert and there's a table of 4 girls . the two older once literally were watching me the whole time we were there . they were in late 30s early 40s. Like every time I looked that way they were staring . biggest ioi hit ever seen , I would literally see then turn around to see me walk by. Wtf. then I got progressively more drunk and stopped noticing stuff haha . Tbh I would not even notice them unless my buddy didn't say hey those girls are staring you down .

Future note : av for me ( mid 20s) is definitely two drops , 3 borderline. 4th drop came out and I just went with it but regretted it . 6 drops is hard od with me sweating a lot and feeling hot for some reason ( past experience ). Still it was weird that I noticed "ghosting" if that even was it when it Was fine around friends gf .

(06-12-2017 7:34 AM)kocik2000 Wrote:  Went to a concert last night. 4 drops av + 2 sprays xist sampler ( suppose to smooth out av) .
Went to pick up my buddy , his gf always friendly and stuff but I think she was much much friendlier and flirtier than usual. She went straight for a hug too which usually happen only like 10% . Got a big whiff of xist(av on wrists and elbows) and I swear her pupils went fucking huge. She was flirty after with Kino and play fighting fter I almost physically felt friends awkwardness . still wondering if it was xist or av .

Anyway at a bar I felt like bartend etc was borderline ignoring me etc as well as people. Figured ghosting ? Is this what this is ? Washed about 2 drops off and what u know ? While walking back 2 blonds in their 30s not really my type just staring me down (overweight slightly). Then we go to a hookah bar prior to concert and there's a table of 4 girls . the two older once literally were watching me the whole time we were there . they were in late 30s early 40s. Like every time I looked that way they were staring . biggest ioi hit ever seen , I would literally see then turn around to see me walk by. Wtf. then I got progressively more drunk and stopped noticing stuff haha . Tbh I would not even notice them unless my buddy didn't say hey those girls are staring you down .

Future note : av for me ( mid 20s) is definitely two drops , 3 borderline. 4th drop came out and I just went with it but regretted it . 6 drops is hard od with me sweating a lot and feeling hot for some reason ( past experience ). Still it was weird that I noticed "ghosting" if that even was it when it Was fine around friends gf .

Great Report Kocik and I agree with the dosage. How about someone older me (46)
I have read many reports but nothing is conclusive, Should the older folks do like 6 drops because we produce less mones?

(06-12-2017 11:30 AM)austinitecute Wrote:  Great Report Kocik and I agree with the dosage. How about someone older me (46)
I have read many reports but nothing is conclusive, Should the older folks do like 6 drops because we produce less mones?

It's a good question . Russian wolf and Gary himself said not to be afraid of bigger doses. Gary recommended 4-8. I think Gary might be around your age guessing from his picture. AV is just straight up trial and error . tricky to dose but once u get it it's awesome

(06-12-2017 11:30 AM)austinitecute Wrote:  Great Report Kocik and I agree with the dosage. How about someone older me (46)
I have read many reports but nothing is conclusive, Should the older folks do like 6 drops because we produce less mones?

I'm close to your age. Mine is the roller bottle of AV....I did low dose (quarter size circle) and it worked just fine.

Again, I grinded my teeth, was hyper aggressive, and men would be grumpy around me. Women would respond agressively too....so I would start off small and see.

A very strong aura, energy to pull off for me unless I was in the mood (ate right, worked out, etc).

(06-12-2017 1:50 PM)DarkLord1 Wrote:  I'm close to your age. Mine is the roller bottle of AV....I did low dose (quarter size circle) and it worked just fine.

Again, I grinded my teeth, was hyper aggressive, and men would be grumpy around me. Women would respond agressively too....so I would start off small and see.

A very strong aura, energy to pull off for me unless I was in the mood (ate right, worked out, etc).

How many droplets you think make quarter sized circle. I have my Av in euro drop bottle . I really cant characterize whats a drop?
Thanks.

(06-12-2017 3:32 PM)austinitecute Wrote:  How many droplets you think make quarter sized circle. I have my Av in euro drop bottle . I really cant characterize whats a drop?
Thanks.

Not sure...Maybe a drop. AV is potent.

So I commented on the "making out after 15 minutes" thread about a first meeting middle of the afternoon sober lay with AV.

This report is of a meeting with a different chick at a Starbucks the next day.

I used 4 drops of AV. We met at a Starbucks near her work. We had met on tinder and went back and forth. She pleaded that she was a good midwest girl (just like the other one the day before!). I told her I was glad she said that because I wouldn't have it any other way!

Sun is shining away and it's like 80 so my AV is probably flying off me. We sit outside and don't even order a thing. Get straight to conversation. Chat a little. I explained I was from out of town and was leaving today. Then I figured it's time to go after it. I said "why don't you take the rest of the afternoon off?" She sighed and said "I wish I could. I have to get back to work and actually fire someone today."

I said, "You can go back to work with a smile on your face and a glimmer in your eye" and smiled at her. Then I said "There's that."
She then repeated and said "There is that."

More chit chat, blah blah blah. We walked to our cars right next to each other. Hugged and kissed a couple times. She said "don't leave until later." I said I had to hit the road. I could have pushed more but didn't as she was a little bigger than I wanted. I would have done her, but I was not going to work for it.

While on the road I texted her and here's how it went. It's kind of drawn out, but real life:
Me: "Nice meeting you!"

Her: "Nice meeting you too!" (with two smileys with hearts in the eyes)
"Wish I could have taken the afternoon off."

Me: "Me too!!!" with the bang explosion symbol at the end.
"Good thing you didn't wear a skirt. You'd have had no chance."
"Meaning you'd be on your back right now" (wink)

Her: "Oh yeah?"

Me: "Yes. The skirt is just the extra degree of sexy. No wouldn't have been an option"

Her: "Then you'd leave me and forget me..."

Me: "I'd leave"

Her: "Go back home"

Me: "Yes"

Her: "I love love love sex...but I'm not a casual sex person. God, I miss it too...lol"

Me: "I deprive myself too much"
"Kinda the vacation mindset though" (with two purple horny faces)

Her: "I get it for sure."
"Besides...you'd be on your back, not me..."

Me: "Perfect"
"I guess it'd be like your gas station around here: Kum & Go What's up with THAT?" That's an actual name of a gas station chain there.

Her: "Haha! Horrible name!"

Me: [b]"Curiosity question:
I almost asked, but obviously didn't. If I would have offered to finger you to pleasure in one of our cars...would you have accepted?" (purple horny face)

Her: "Still thinking about me, huh?"

Me: "Long drive girl!"

Her: "If you know how to finger a girl right, I would have let you."

Me: "Well I've never touched a real vagina, but I've seen videos lol"

Her: "That's how most men do it" (sad face)

Me: "Looks fun"

Her: "I think if you had done that, I would have wanted your tongue and then your hard cock..."

Me: "and wood have gotten it"
"And gone back to work with a smile and a smirk"
"I threw that part out there..."

Her: "Should have worn a skirt...I could have sat on your lap and rocked back and forth...breathing heavy and moaning a little in pleasure..."

Me: "Mmmhhmmm"
"Did I wake a sleeping bear?"

Her: "No. Lol"
"I will be going home to get myself off though..."

Me: "Atta girl
Think about the car and parking lot possibilities during lunch break!
#thatsprettyhot

Her: "And rubbing your bald head...giving you kisses..."

Me: "Coulda been REAL though!"

Her: "Coulda been. Shouldn't have left" (wink)

Me: "You should have gotten a 'flat tire' and got back to work a little late"

Her: "Maybe next time you're in the area."


This and the other one I wrote in the other thread are my first explosive experiences with AV. These two incidents showed tremendous attraction from two different professional blonde chicks in their mid 30's who both told me they are good midwest girls. Back to back days in the afternoon. Had sex with one, could have with the other if I pushed ever so slightly. Fun stuff!