(09-17-2013 6:34 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Erox is nothing like P96 in my experience. With Erox I get nothing. With P96 I get hits through the glass at the drive thru teller.

Hits through the glass at the drive thru teller!?!?!? As how many mcgs, J?

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(09-17-2013 6:34 PM)JAYCEE Wrote:  Erox is nothing like P96 in my experience. With Erox I get nothing. With P96 I get hits through the glass at the drive thru teller.

You'll have to take that up with Pago. He says otherwise in this thread and thinks Xist does not have any P96 in it (allopregnanolone).
I just got some P96 and my Erox is on the way for some testing. How many mcg's of P96 should you start with?

Well but erox is a blend. I think we're all interested in P96 as single molecule.

on the other hand, I'm willing to believe that Androtics has made us believe that P96 is a single :s

It may be a blend. But until it is proved, the quest for P96 as a single molecule remains.

Just to clarify ..

the product i´m convinced that P96 is in is not made by Erox !

Pago

No worries Pago I know you probably spent a long time figuring it out so its cool to keep it under wraps.

Im wondering if it may be in the nude line since I've seen something of a reset. As in females who might not have paid attention to me before may become more receptive to advances. Just a wild guess though.

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(09-19-2013 6:02 AM)Pagodeiro Wrote:  Just to clarify ..

the product i´m convinced that P96 is in is not made by Erox !

Pago

So you just think that muricin aglycone is just a powerful putative that is similar to P96 in its effects or is it different altogether? Any hints on what you think P96 is? Many believe it's in Xist as allopregnanolone. Do you have any real P96 from AD that you'd like to part with?
I got some P97 from you last year.
It's possible that AD put more than one thing in P96, but the point of the putatives was for testers to add these to their own mixes and report back on the forums so AD could get some empirical data on it and incorporate it into their mixes. Putatives were all suppose to be single molecules. Isn't that right, Pago? I know you were a reporting user and got to try out a lot of cool stuff.

I think you may find many of these Androtics' are mixed Alpha and Beta XYZ (fill in the blank) Sulfate. They will be hard to copy with a single CAS #. This is how pharmaceutical chemistry works in the real world. They don't need or want to make a single, pure molecule. The end result of the step wise synthesis may be mixed Alpha and Beta, or they may go further to isolate one or the other to a specified degree of purity (not 100%) depending on how much time, reagents, etc, the client will pay. Take a look at that film Lorenzo's Oil. They had to find one old codger in the world who could make a few ounces with many months of an experimental reaction. Nobody else would do it (or could). God, what I wouldn't give to see a research chemist on this board. Some of your top patent drugs (and common ones) are made exactly the way I described. I'd bet you could make 24 putative pheromones derived from androsterone. I'd bet they have but stopped p96, P86 and P93 because it cost to much or the materials were not obtainable or patent. Maybe the lab dude died and his private notes were unpublished.

Chris knows (or knew) a few things about chemistry. I wish he could get focused and stop the paranoia.