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Pheromones in sex and reproduction
04-23-2011 10:05 PM

Pheromones in sex and reproduction: Do they have a role in humans? Review Article Journal of Advanced Research, In Press, Corrected Proof, Available online 13 April 2011 Taymour Mostafa, Ghada El Khouly, Ashraf Hassan
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/art...6b52275119

Concluding sentences: In mammals, olfaction plays a major role in sexual attraction, excitement and even in triggering ovulation. However, in humans, because of their large and complex brains, it plays a minor role and is significantly supplanted by vision and/or fantasy in men and by hearing and/or touch in women. Also, although olfaction alters the neuroendocrine balance in mammals, olfaction is altered by hormones in humans."

It may interest others to read this review of the literature and attempt to determine how the authors reached their opinionated conclusion that humans are very different from other mammals. There has never been any scientific support for statements about comparative neuroanatomy and the importance either of food odors or of social odors to behavior. Both food odors and social odors (called pheromones) alter the neuroendocrine balance in mammals and these alterations are the determinants of food choice and social choice, which include food preferences and sexual preferences.

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RE: Pheromones in sex and reproduction
04-24-2011 11:15 AM

From the study:

"Studies of human attraction have demonstrated that men and women advertise heritable mate qualities such as body and face symmetry, masculine/feminine face shapes, body shape, body odour and vocal characteristics [82], [83], [84] and [85].

It was demonstrated that women prefer body odours collected from men with a high degree of bilateral symmetry compared with odours from asymmetrical men [86]. In turn, men and women indicated preferences for voices from individuals with higher degrees of bilateral body symmetry than lower bilateral symmetry [87]."

My point is: if I wear pheromones that only very simmetrical men should be producing (assuming that the reason why they are exceptionally simmetrical is linked to, or is the same biological reason why they "smell better"), woulnd't that be a visual/olfactory incongruence?

Or maybe my wearing pheromones induces women to "see" (unconcious process of course) me as more symmetrical than I am in strictly visual terms, and the same goes for the hearing of my voice? That would mean that the nº 1 and maybe the ONLY factor that matters in sexual/social preferences is the scent, and the other traits that the whole world believes to be relevant are totally smell-dependent.

But then, how could it be explained that we do tend to like or dislike people only by visual input, as we know when we see a beautiful woman or an ugly one on TV (body language and behaviour included).

Maybe there are "preassigned settings", that is to say: the scent is congruent with the visual input, voice, body language, behaviour, etc. So the people with the correct settings tend to be much more successful in society and that is to say, in life.

Just thinking aloud anyway. Good day to y'all!
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04-24-2011 5:37 PM

I suggest you think about this in terms of what happens when you use spices to make food more appealing. The added chemicals enhance the olfactory appeal of the food (and its taste), which is what makes it more visually appealing. Adding the right pheromones in the right concentrations makes people more visually appealing in the same manner, by enhancing their olfactory/pheromonal appeal.

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RE: Pheromones in sex and reproduction
04-24-2011 5:46 PM

Ok, I get it. Thanks!

PS: I agree that a chocolate cake smelling like fried poo kind of.... loses its appeal Mrgreen

(04-24-2011 5:37 PM)jvkohl Wrote:  I suggest you think about this in terms of what happens when you use spices to make food more appealing. The added chemicals enhance the olfactory appeal of the food (and its taste), which is what makes it more visually appealing. Adding the right pheromones in the right concentrations makes people more visually appealing in the same manner, by enhancing their olfactory/pheromonal appeal.

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04-24-2011 6:13 PM

(04-24-2011 5:46 PM)Pherosoup Wrote:  Ok, I get it. Thanks!

You're welcome. The authors of the article don't get it. They wrote: "However, in humans, because of their large and complex brains, it [olfaction] plays a minor role and is significantly supplanted by vision..."

Of course olfaction is supplanted by vision, but in the absence of visual input it is the conditioned response to food odors and social odors that is essential to the survival of every organism of every species. There's no way olfaction could play a minor role in any species regardless of brain size and complexity. The authors shamelessly move from science to opinion.

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RE: Pheromones in sex and reproduction
04-24-2011 7:58 PM

Cant agree more with James on the importance of odor and smell.
Although the ability to smell varies very wildly from person to person.
And all things equal smokers smell have less sense of smell than non smokers.
And of course nature gives women a better sense of smell than men, likely to help with motherhood.
All this is mixed with another variable being age and the aging process.

Pherosoup most of us occasionally meet people that leave us thinking
"Dunno why, but i just like her" and viceversa.
I've met plenty women who would hardly fit my checklist (if i had one), not the most attractive
but they just had a "something" that gelled with me and made any check list irrelevant.

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04-25-2011 4:21 PM

Yeah I agree. Actually I often feel attracted to women who don't really fit the physical parameters society seems to impose as the attractive ones.

By the way, I received my Scent of Eros this morning. I'll be testing tomorrow and I hope it makes a difference!

(04-24-2011 7:58 PM)Pheroman Wrote:  Pherosoup most of us occasionally meet people that leave us thinking
"Dunno why, but i just like her" and viceversa.
I've met plenty women who would hardly fit my checklist (if i had one), not the most attractive
but they just had a "something" that gelled with me and made any check list irrelevant.
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04-25-2011 6:50 PM

Anecdotal evidence from experience with two ex-wives strongly suggests that attraction to petite, large breasted, women can change -- almost, but not quite -- to aversion. Such women are far less likely to attract me now than they did in the past. I suspect that I am conditioned to not respond to their pheromones, and hope that either I can recognize one who is enhancing her natural scent signature, or that I am not enhancing my natural scent signature should we happen to meet.

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04-25-2011 7:19 PM

James could it be by association?
ie when you see the same type of woman your subconscious screams "not that again" in the back ground?
I do think that mones work that way too.

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04-25-2011 8:10 PM

Yes, it's by association. Same as with food preferences. If you see something that made you ill, depending on the severity of the associated illness, you usually won't eat it a second time. But what you see is linked to the unconscious affect of the food's odor.

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(04-25-2011 7:19 PM)Pheroman Wrote:  James could it be by association?
ie when you see the same type of woman your subconscious screams "not that again" in the back ground?
I do think that mones work that way too.
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