(11-20-2012 3:50 AM)Mara ~ Love Potion Wrote:  I apologize for intruding, but just FYI - this is the entire basis behind Love Potion fragrances. We have been blending plant, animalic and even insect derived scents for well over 25 years without pheromones, but with pheromonal effects.

It does make sense how scents can have an pheromone like effect without being "Pheromones".

I've had some very short discussions with JKV about this and he is a strong believer in seperating pheromones and "other chemosignal molecules".

I'm all for locating non-pheromone putatives that have pheromone effects on humans regardless of species of origin.

It goes to reason that plants that produce smells do it attract insects or other animals to help them in pollination. Seems sexual in a plant way. But the chemicals they produce are not endogenous to the bug, but rather a close analog of the bugs chemical that works just as well, or better. I'm sure that some plants attract animals in the same way.

The aromatic molecules and scents have attributes that can be analogs to human pheromones as well, just by chemical structure, not always by noticeable scent. Humans can react to things they can't "SMELL" but that they smell in the covert way that pheromones work.

(08-01-2012 1:55 AM)dexter Wrote:  Yohimbine Hypochloride
(not Yohimbe, but it comes from yohimbe, like 6% of yohimbe is Yohimbine Hypochloride, the other 94% is other stuff)

I found Yohimbine HCL at the vitamin store last night and couldn't resist buying it for a pheromone test.
[REMINDER, THIS IS NOT YOHIMBE, YOHIMBE IS JUST PROCESSED PLANT, THIS IS ONE MOLECULE. I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS EXTRACTED FROM YOHIMBE OR SYNTHESIZED.]

(11-09-2012 12:56 AM)Grape Ape Wrote:  Couldn't these plant sterols be the putative?


On another note: Finesteride might as well be looked at as poison for the male body. It has ruined many lives, and there are plenty of class action suites. I'd advise one to do their homework before researching with it in any way.

YES YES YES

these plant sterols could be the putative. AD's "SINGLE" molecules may be useless and we just feel the putative effect of the plant sterols.

I'm not saying that Pxx is useless, I am saying that we don't know if the effects come from the sterols, the PXX single molecule, or the combination of the sterol&Pxx. Not an isolated variable for users to test. AD knows, but they don't show their hand for us to see the actual mix.

Yohimbine... interesting social. Havent noticed sexual effects. As a supplement its only supposed to work on men anyways. Never tried it that way.